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Lopen's Left Arm@sh.itjust.works to Today I Learned@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

TIL that a bunch of medieval manuscripts featured illustrations of knights fighting giant snails, and no one knows why

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TIL that a bunch of medieval manuscripts featured illustrations of knights fighting giant snails, and no one knows why

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Lopen's Left Arm@sh.itjust.works to Today I Learned@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago
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The mystery of the medieval fighting snails
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The pages of medieval books are stalked by a ferocious monster: the fighting snail.
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    Monks did most of the writing and artwork.

    Monks main diet was brassicas.

    They grew their own food.

    Do the math, it’s wish fulfillment

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      Brassica, it is ALWAY brassica.

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        Mate, when a full monastery is blowing the covers off every night to the sound of foghorns i care little for correct plurality

        • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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          I read their response not as “The correct plural is brassica”, but as “Friggin’ everything is a brassica cultivar”.

          If you didn’t know: cabbage, kale, broccoli, kohlrabi, brussels sprouts, collard greens and cauliflower are all selectively bred cultivars of the same species.

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            You are correct. Not sure why he felt so attacked.

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      I think you’re really on to something here, if you don’t work in history or something, you should run this by a historian or scholar and see what they think

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      Explains the rabbits as well! You come up with this on your own?!

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        Monty Python makes so much more sense now

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      This makes so much sense, is there any evidence? I don’t want to spread the rumor as a fun fact unless there’s something behind it. Very fun idea!

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      Removed by mod

    • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
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      That’s my guess too. Snail plague there heart to be evidence of it somewhere. Also when did escargot become popular?

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    The ones with the rabbits are pretty messed up as well!

    • LEM 1689@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Ahhh…this explains the rabbit in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

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        The snails also explain an odd event in Runescape while doing the Temple Trekking minigame. Now that I think it, Runescape also has a historically accurate fascination with Brassicas like Cabbages, which would correlate with a historically accurate aversion to snails.

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        That movie is shockingly historically accurate.

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      That’s the kind of thing I doodle in my notepad when I’m bored during a call.

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        I’m concerned.

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          I’m aroused.

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            I’m concerned again.

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              Stop. I can only get so erect.

    • The Barto@sh.itjust.works
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      Imagine getting beaten with a stick by a rabbit as his friend robs you, while your friend draws it for historical archive.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
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        He’s not robbing the guy, he’s peeling the skin off his foot(!)

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          he’s peeling the skin off his foot

          To which he has no ownership of, so he is still robbing him, just not for material objects.

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          Oh that’s much better.

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          Hmm, any connection to the “lucky rabbit’s foot” thing, or is tgat a modern invention ?

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            Ooh, that’s a good point!

            Origins apparently go back to 600 BC:

            https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/12/rabbits-foot-considered-lucky/

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        “Did you get a good look at the suspects?”

        “Not really. But fortunately my manuscript illustrator was there.”

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      So they fuck the rabbits and fight the snails?

  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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    The exact same thing will happen hundreds of years from now with amogus memes and :.|:;

    • Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world
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      Is there a god damn font character for loss??

      • ThisIsFuz@lemmy.world
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        Took me a bit to work it out but it’s :.|:; with a strike through. Bloody genius haha

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          deleted by creator

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      Is this loss

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        Yes, this is loss

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        Omg, I instantly knew what it meant and assumed the poster said it was loss even though he didn’t.

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        Omg, I instantly knew what it meant and assumed the poster said it was loss even though he didn’t. I translate loss references into the word "loss’ like it’s a fucking hieroglyph. I bet it would be the same with amogus drawings.

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      …Is loss a Unicode character now??

      • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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        :.|:;

        ~:.|:;~

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          Cool! I never thought of that!

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    I saw this years ago and I still think it was primitive office humor. Snails ate delicious plants and there were probably monks waging a war against them. The incredulity of fighting so hard against an enemy so weak was funny.

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      This seems like a plausible explanation, but I’d maybe expect to see a few giant slugs and caterpillars - these are at least as damaging to crops as snails.

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      Im betting they got all done up in their armor and went to fight in muddy battlefields, and when they were not fighting the enemy they were dealing with snails crawling inside the armor and being all slimy and disgusting crawling between the knights legs and the armor.

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        First boss of Shadow of the Erdtree

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        Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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        Stormlight Archives vibes.

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          I won’t be like the others.

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    The Snail Wars lore has been lost to time

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      Our DNA never forgets. That’s why to this day, every human has an innate and irrepressible fear of snails. It’s true.

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        Well, in France people eat them… It could still be related though…

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          Most things are actually delicious when cooked well. Alligator? Stingray? Guinea pig? Cow tongue? The heart of nearly any creature? All of them are better than chicken

          We eat things not because they’re delicious, but because they’re convenient and reasonably delicious. Snail used to be a delicacy… They don’t eat it in France much anymore because they’re not convenient anyone

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            IIRC snail was originally a survival food. I guess over time people kept refining the preparation process and accompaniments until it became a delicacy (indeed, probably because it’s very far from being a convenient dish to make).

            Source : am french. I ate snails yesterday for Christmas Eve’s dinner, actually.

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            We eat things not because they’re delicious, but because they’re convenient and reasonably delicious.

            Like children.

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              Also a French delicacy

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            We still do eat them. Well at least I assume some people do as I can’t stand it. But you still find frozen snails in pretty much every supermarket around where I live.

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        Honestly I like snails, they look kinda cute. I get excited whenever I happen to find one

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    Not friends of the gentle racing snails? How sad…

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    Imagine future civilization digging out some of today’s memes…

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    Ye olde memes.

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    Well, do you see any giant snails around? No? Then thank those knights

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      Sounds like an ecological disaster to me, so no thanks to them.

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      “Lisa… I’m going to buy your knight”

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    Honestly, it would be amazing if the answer was that large mollusks actually existed and were poorly documented.

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      And just like… Disintegrated instead of fossilizing

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        I’m not an expert by ANY means, but I think there needs to be strict conditions to make fossils. I think most bones just eventually turn to dust

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          That’s true although I would also hypothesize that giant mollusks would likely fall into a biome that has these conditions.

          That said, I could see body of a slug not really getting fossilized. The shell probably would be, but maybe not depending on circumstances.

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        The bodies yes, the shells I imagine were fashioned into exceptional armor locked in ancient vaults.

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    Because they probably had a great sense of humour, comedy clubs and memes back then too, but hey let’s ignore that for just a moment to imagine how hardcore a knight you would have to be to fight off Cthulhu snails

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      The mystery of the medieval fighting snails 23rd December 2023, 09:00 EST

      This dude got payed to post this Ai article on christmas eve

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    Did they also take that challenge with the immortal snail?

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      Plot twist: its actually the same person making the snail memes today, yet to be caught and looking for new ways to stay one step ahead of the snail

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        one step ahead of the snail

        I dare say it shouldn’t be very hard to stay one step ahead of a snail.

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          But it never stops since its immortal. Keep that motherfucker in eyesight or one day it’ll just be there at your feet, waiting to kill you!

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          https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/immortal-snail

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          Oh, it’s easy to run away from a snail. You get away, and for weeks, even months, you stay vigilant. But one day, when your vigilance fades, you find yourself surrounded

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    Oh dear. I read that as ‘fisting’ at first.

    I picked the wrong day to give up sniffing glue.

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      Japan is attacked by sea creatures.

      England is besieged by Snailfist and his legion of slime.

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    I think we know the real answer.

    Humanity was ruled by giant snails and their hyper intelligent queen, and it was only through the bravery of these fine knights were our shackles cast off and the mollusk menace thrown down.

    And, in great effort to hide our collective shame, all knowledge about this was intentionally purged, Save for a few manuscripts who managed to be overlooked or were kept in hiding, so hints of humanities true history would be known.

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      And now we listen to the snails in our ears.

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      Was this event also when we as a species managed to free ourselves of our Slurm™ addiction?

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        God, is this what the American education system has come to?

        Slurm was made by worms that had a physical appearance akin to slugs.

        Neither of which are snails!

        learn your history! and biology!

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          i mean, you joke, but the rest of us are pretty sure that Futurama is the american education system at this point

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            Can’t be. To many smart people and woke liberal agendas like strong women and the existence of brown people.

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      Hail Mollusca! Slime will prevail!

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