The Trump administration mobilized troops to Los Angeles in response to anti-ICE protests earlier this month
  • venusaur@lemmy.world
    22·
    2 days ago

    I’m curious when somebody is gonna try to shoot them thinking they’re just being kidnapped.

    • skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de
      10·
      1 day ago

      At the rate they are going, it will happen. I’m honestly surprised it has taken this long, a testament to the collective hope that it won’t be necessary. The first will probably be a right-wing nutjob or agent provocateur they try to illegally kidnap, that they’ll then claim is a Democrat. Already saw some footage of people in Tucson, AZ with shields and pepper balls shooting back at the ICE Treasonists.

      Hit the range and train up folks. The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. They’re not taking this fucking country. (Still hoping it doesn’t come to that. The violence line is a hard one to come back from. Also, this message is not to be construed as a threat of violence. Only a statement of fact. Violence should always be avoided whenever possible, until it is necessary. The world came together to stop Nazis the first time, we may very well have to do it again.)

      • Joeffect@lemmy.world
        5·
        1 day ago

        It’s almost as if the narrative of these being criminals is a lie… Wouldn’t the first thing a criminal would on seeing a gang of masked men be to idono fucking shoot them?

        • skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de
          2·
          9 hours ago

          Almost! Who knew??

          Non-sarcasm: Sad thing is, with almost everything this administration says, apply a 1984-esque filter to it. So crap like the “rapists, murderers, and thugs” rhetoric spewed would translate into something like, “workers, families, and refugees”. Likewise, the rhetoric is often projection as well.

          A full unraveling thusly would be: The administration is actually the rapists, murderers, and thugs, and they are targeting workers, families, and refugees with the Constitutional, Federal, State, and Local crimes they are committing.

          Need to build an AI news filter tasked to parse all news articles on these topics so the real words are always used when they say anything. Shoot, probably a find/replace browser plugin could do it, although using an LLM would make it more dynamic.

        • selfdefense420@lemmy.world
          6·
          1 day ago

          You’re inviting martial law.

          you’re damn right. we have to be willing to fight them. living in fear of that outcome is defeat. if all they have to do is threaten us, then we’re already defeated.

        • chebur54@lemmy.world
          4·
          1 day ago

          I propose doxing and talking to their families. They clearly work/serve for a criminal organization under Mango Mussolini (trump) who gives them the orders. They don’t give a shit about the law/constitution or any other horse shit paper. Just bunch of immoral thugs and it is a duty of everyone to condemn them and their actions.

          No victim = no crime! Fuck the state!

  • Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de
    63·
    2 days ago

    Setting the stage for Martial law. Slowly put troops out and when the midterms start, arrest those trying to vote.

    Edit: Always appreciate proofreaders. Thanks to all that serve!

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    151·
    2 days ago

    So, call me crazy, but I really do think the protest organizers need to push WAY harder on the idea that while ICE is the enemy, the NG (and the military at large too, hopefully) is not. We should make posters saying stuff like “NG: We’re citizens, and you’re citizen soldiers; we should be friends!”

    I genuinely do hope and believe that when the chips are really down at some point, if the National Guard or any active-duty unit is ordered to do something absolutely beyond the pale, they’d refuse the order and frag the person who gave it. I think that may be part of how we end up getting out of this shitshow. And yes, I do realize how deeply fucked it is that I’m basically banking on a mutiny by elements of the US Military as our final breakwater against fascism… but our civilian institutions are manifestly failing to meet the moment in any meaningful way.

      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        12 hours ago

        The national guard is a meaningfully different organization than it was back during the Vietnam war era. And so is our society. I’d like to think that if Kent State played out today, we’d likely see a very different outcome. And at any rate, we’ll probably all get a chance to see what happen sooner than later in that respect.

        All I’m saying is that if you are overtly friendly and inclusive to volunteer national guards[wo]men, it’s gonna be a lot harder for them to look you in the eye and pull the trigger. Up to and including refusing orders or fragging the officer giving the order.

    • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      the thing is MSM isnt reporting it, and they are trying very hard not to give it more attention than it needs, because its conservative owned media.

  • who@feddit.orgEnglish
    7·
    2 days ago

    Meanwhile, Trump’s so-called “Big, Beautiful Bill” spending and tax bill would direct $168 billion towards immigration and border enforcement. But that increased spending and other immigration-related costs could cost the U.S. an estimated $1.4 trillion over the next decade.