• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    So, call me crazy, but I really do think the protest organizers need to push WAY harder on the idea that while ICE is the enemy, the NG (and the military at large too, hopefully) is not. We should make posters saying stuff like “NG: We’re citizens, and you’re citizen soldiers; we should be friends!”

    I genuinely do hope and believe that when the chips are really down at some point, if the National Guard or any active-duty unit is ordered to do something absolutely beyond the pale, they’d refuse the order and frag the person who gave it. I think that may be part of how we end up getting out of this shitshow. And yes, I do realize how deeply fucked it is that I’m basically banking on a mutiny by elements of the US Military as our final breakwater against fascism… but our civilian institutions are manifestly failing to meet the moment in any meaningful way.

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        2 hours ago

        The national guard is a meaningfully different organization than it was back during the Vietnam war era. And so is our society. I’d like to think that if Kent State played out today, we’d likely see a very different outcome. And at any rate, we’ll probably all get a chance to see what happen sooner than later in that respect.

        All I’m saying is that if you are overtly friendly and inclusive to volunteer national guards[wo]men, it’s gonna be a lot harder for them to look you in the eye and pull the trigger. Up to and including refusing orders or fragging the officer giving the order.

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      1 day ago

      the thing is MSM isnt reporting it, and they are trying very hard not to give it more attention than it needs, because its conservative owned media.