The national guard is a meaningfully different organization than it was back during the Vietnam war era. And so is our society. I’d like to think that if Kent State played out today, we’d likely see a very different outcome. And at any rate, we’ll probably all get a chance to see what happen sooner than later in that respect.

All I’m saying is that if you are overtly friendly and inclusive to volunteer national guards[wo]men, it’s gonna be a lot harder for them to look you in the eye and pull the trigger. Up to and including refusing orders or fragging the officer giving the order.