Albert Einstein was 100% correct. I am ashamed of the politicians in Germany who fail to learn the lessons from WWII.
Israel has nukes - what about that Non-proliferation treaty Germany?
“He thinks words on a paper mean anything”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles?wprov=sfla1
Worse hypocrisy than “Russia has no right to defend itself”. Prior to US led nazi coup in 2014, Russia and Ukraine had close economic/political ties, even as supposed Russian stooge President was exploring in good faith EU membership. Coup was designed to sabotage that relationship, with direct NATO/nazi threats to Russia.
Israel’s relationship with neighbours and Iran has never been defensive. Europe’s rulers always siding with US empire, even as US attacks it, is deeply traitorous. JCPOA process, appears to be the same EU deception as Minsk accords or 2 state solution Norway/Camp David BS. Germany, specifically has no chill between nazi and zionazi extremes.
France, Germany, the US, and UK are all issuing official statements in full support of Israel’s attack, and the US is moving some naval vessels to the ME to defend its little brother. Only China and Russia are going to oppose them on the UN security council.
How’s it going “enlightened democracies”?
None of them want Iran to have nuclear weapons. They are probably fine with Israel doing the dirty work.
Countries allowed to have nuclear weapons (or energy) check:
Countries allowed to have nukes:
- countries that already have them
- countries that make them before someone stops them
Don’t forget China, India, and Pakistan all have nukes.
It’s like working on a nintedo fan game, only announce it once you’re done.
Are anyone here fine with Iran having nuclear weapons? A fundamentalist dictatorship armed with nuclear weapons?
Ignore for a second how Israel is reacting. Are anyone here fine with Iran having nuclear weapons?
If you are, then please explain.
If you aren’t, then please explain what you propose to do to avoid Iran having nuclear weapons.
A fundamentalist dictatorship armed with nuclear weapons?
Israel? If Israel is allowed them, then certainly countries it hates needs them.
Iran has been infinitely more reasonable on foreign diplomacy than the US in the past 25 years. If the US gets them, Iran gets them too.
Not only am I fine with it, I actively support it. It’s the only way to protect it from the endless aggression of Israel and the US, both of which already have nukes and are far more fundamentalist and dictatorial then Iran.
Iran tried it’s absolute hardest to negotiate in good faith to avoid having to build nukes, and the West did nothing but exploit that good faith and stab them in the back.
Are anyone here fine with USA having nuclear weapons? A 200 year old group of rogue British colonies founded on arguably the greatest genocide in human history, slavery, Christian fundamentalism and white supremacy that only very recently stopped being a segregated apartheid state (nominally) that has been full blown imperialist and colonialist for a century and took the place that the British Empire used to have on the global stage, armed with nuclear weapons?
Ignore for a second how the US sponsored colony is reacting to the consequences of their own attacks. Are anyone here fine with the USA having nuclear weapons after rushing to use them on civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the only nuclear weapons armed country that has ever used them in combat in the past 80 years?
If you are, then please explain.
If you aren’t, then please explain what you propose to do to avoid the USA having nuclear weapons.
(USA is white rule South Africa on crack, steroids and has been doing it for just as much time. That is the real context and not vibes and “Iran bad”. Maybe if the Euros didn’t rush to cut up the territories of the former Ottoman Empire to make colonies there wouldn’t be a need for nationalist “dictatorships” in the region, a normal and justified byproduct of constant western attempts to install puppet states in western designed Frankenstein countries with very different ethnic and religious groups (including western sponsored religious fanatic groups) all lumped together because some Brits and French agreed about some imaginary borders in the 1920s. You can’t have a democracy when American alphabet soup agencies keep trying to erode it to steal your resources. But let’s ask the western libs about their massive censorship against Russian media after the Ukraine thing and how tolerant they are to “Russian election interference” and other western hysterias to see the hilarious double standards.)
I have far less concerns with what Iran will do with nuclear weapons than what the only nation that has used them on civilians will do if they believe they can stop nuclear retaliation, a goal they 've been pursuing for decades.
They after all have a much longer history of violating international law and committing atrocities than Iran,wo themselvesarenot saints at all.
That’s without even considering the recent (impressive for an already right wing country) fast and extreme shift to the far right with Trump and co.
I’m okay with Iran having nuclear weapons because many other terrible countries have them already and seem to have zero interest in disarming. They have the right to pursue defense via deterrence.
I want both sides to lose this war. I don’t want Iran to have nuclear weapons, and I don’t want Israel to continue to have the military and economic strength it currently holds.
Just as with the US and Russia, both sides can suck. And Ukraine/Palestine get caught in the middle (although in the case of Ukraine, all the fault lies with Russia).
You would have "both-sides"ed world war two
Well commies and nazis were both equally disgusting and pure evil.
If you’re a Holocaust denier
“If we support Israel with their very own holocaust we’ll be even for what we did right?”
Two Holocausts don’t make a right.
Fuck Germany for this and fuck Israel.
In 2023, Germany said: “Confronted with an openly aggressive Russia, the importance of nuclear deterrence has increased for many states, including for [Germany].
Germany is one of five NATO members to host US nuclear weapons on its territory as part of a nuclear-sharing agreement. The German air force is assigned approximately 15 B61 nuclear bombs, which are deployed at the Büchel air base.
In 2016, Germany voted against the UN General Assembly resolution that established the formal mandate for states to commence negotiations on “a legally binding instrument to prohibit nuclear weapons, leading towards their total elimination”.
Germany: Nuclear weapons are good actually
Also Germany: Ban nuclear power return to burning coal
Guess they don’t like nuclear if it doesn’t involve killing people
Iran is illegally building a nuclear weapon for illegal self defense and Israel is doing a Jack Bauer to stop them.
Obviously, Germany - a country with a long and storied history of liberal democratic values and anti-war principles - will come down on the right side of this conflict. There’s no way they’d just align with a Middle Eastern Imperialist power looking to dominate and ethically cleanse a region of its native people.
That’s also what says macron.
https://x.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1933491906144526764Didn’t click on the link but based on the last 8 years, anything Macron says has a strong probability of being dogshit made to sound plausible and appealing to the end user.
We had chatgpt as president before chatgpt was the hype.
So whatever he wrote on the nazi social network, take it with a huge pinch of salt.France being famous for having disposed of all 290 of its own nuclear weapons, of course.
To be fair Iran would use their nuke on Israel and everyone knows it.
So?
Would they, though? Knowing that the entire rest of the world would be down their throats in an instant? Knowing Israel would immediately nuke them back?
It’s amazing how France and Germany seem to have the same view after US has been pushing the nuclear path. Feels like some play book is being acted out.
Always Sunny memes are perfect for modern international politics.
And I guess we’re maybe all going to die because we keep letting idiots lead our countries.
I would get politically active to try to help, but that feels like Charlie work.
I have a bucket of blood. Do you think I took too much?
Implying they ever had the plot to begin with
German regime and their Nazi Nepo baby owners are pathetic
iran still executes gay ppl right?
Failed gotcha talking point considering that the main bulk of western Zionists are rabidly anti-LGBT, anti-reproductive rights, anti-evolution Christian fanatics who support Israel because they low key believe the existence of Israel is integral to the second coming. Also, not coincidentally the exact same crowd that voted in all the presidents who sponsored groups like Al Qaeda to push against the communist government of Afghanistan and other communist, socialist and secular movements in the region because birds of a feather work together and religious fanatics apparently get along when they need to and then betray each other because morals don’t count if god is supposedly always on your side amirite.
Gay people still can’t get married in Israel right? So these are both awful countries run by awful people. It just so happens that Israel is the aggressor.
One party being bad doesn’t make the other party good. If we are lucky every single employed person both governments will suddenly drop dead.
Killing innocent people will help save gay people. Dramatic logic.
Thou shalt kill those less liberal than us is a slippery slope. Neocon/neoliberalism all justify genocidal supremacism under rigged democracy. Geopolitics manufactures hate first, makes up reasons 2nd. There has never been any offer to Iran to decriminalize hedonism in exchange for anything.
As a gay ppl: So what? You think this attack is going to advance quiltbag rights?
Happy pride month! I feel a little silly saying happy given the current circumstances of the world, but I think we gotta press on or they win.
I’m too socially inept to know how to respond to this, but I appreciate your post and agree with the sentiment, to the degree that I feel an upvote is inadequate.
I’m also socially inept and I worry I may say the wrong thing, especially as an ally. But I want to express my support durning pride month and in general. I just find I’m a bit clumsy when it comes to the words. I rewrote this comment like 3 times lol.
Israel has executed orders of magnitude more gay people in the past six months alone
Israel is executing gay people en masse.
And?
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Iran with nuclear weapons is a nuisance for all
civilized countriescountries that want to bomb Iran with impunityThank God the pillar of stability Israel has nukes, though. They aren’t aggressive like Iran, they’re only at war with half their neighbors.
you know why!
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After how US and Europe handled ukraine, you would have to be an idiot to not get nukes from geo political perspective.
Israel has nukes, Israel is the enemy of American people who cause us a lot more issues then Iran.
I really don’t care if Iran has nukes. They prolly should so Israel quits trying to draw US into another war like they did with Iraq.
Nuclear weapons don’t help anyone. There are already enough nuclear powers.
I don’t understand your second sentence. Isreal is actually nothing but a proxy state of the US. Just like a nice little outpost. So US and Isreal are already big buddies. I very much believe that the US plays a very big role in this attack on Iran.
Israel is a threat to US national security.
Zionist infliterated the US institutions and conviced idiots that Israel is a friend.
USS Liberty… When they show you who they are believe them.
Israel is major component of the US’s imperialist “security” state. Previously:
Jewish Zionists and Israelis certainly play a significant role, but the tail is not wagging the dog. As Biden has explained for decades, “Were there not an Israel, the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region.” Israel is America’s unsinkable aircraft carrier in West Asia. Consider also that most Zionists are not Jewish, but Christian. AIPAC Not Just for Jews Anymore
But media and money determine US elections. Zionist supremacism owns media messaging, and shifted to Trump’s stronger “finish the job” rhetoric instead of the “pretend to negotiate while finishing the job, without Kent Stating university protests” DNC platform.
Bidem is a Zionist regime whore… Of course he would say that.
My point being that us plebs don’t benefit from the parasitic relationship israel has with the US regime.
Egypt, Jordan, ksa, Turkey are all us allies and we have bases in them.
My point being that us plebs don’t benefit from the parasitic relationship israel has with the US regime.
We sure don’t—no argument there. All it’s likely to get us is austerity, a ramped-up police state, and blowback.
When 9/12 happens the normie will ask: why would anyone do this to us 🤡
Why not? Surely they understand that nuking someone would lead to themselves being nuked in retaliation.
