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30 associations are proposing to the European Commission to impose a limit on the size of new cars, in particular the total width and bonnet.
A report connected with this request showed that the average bonnet height of newly-sold cars in Europe is increasing by 0.5 cm a year.
Many studies showed that bigger cars and higher bonnets are related to more collisions, and worse outcome for pedestrians and cyclists (and those in smaller cars), especially in regards to children
Those SUVs are kid crushers, they shouldn’ be on our roads
crossposed from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/114674420551539891
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but will you not think of the men with fragile masculinities and mid age crises??
They should buy an overpowered motorcycle and try not to wrap it around a tree.
This image says it all.
Should have cowcatchers and just plow through it Damage (to people and every piece of property) is to be paid by the owner of the emotional support vehicle.
Also, tax them to death. Based on weight, dimensions (3dim!), power, displacement etc.
I think those trucks actually are in the gender affirming care category. /s
Emotional support vehicle is a apt description
10 fucking years? We’ll have flying cars before we have reasonably sized ones.
Well, no; collapse of civilization due to climate change and the last human hiding in the last occupiable bunker.
And one of these behemoths will be tossed at the entrance.
Literally yesterday I saw a tram that could not continue becomes someone parked his emotional support pickup truck in a parking place on the side of the street. The truck was so absurdly wide that the tram driver had to get out of the tram and ask the person to move his truck. It was a sad day.
In the Netherlands, there is no need for a pick up truck in the middle of the city in the Netherlands, other then compensation for tiny family jewels.
I think big cars should be prevented from entering any big city.
You do need to transport things inside cities. But parking should have strict size limits for sure.
Then you pay a congestion fee, like a 1-day pass to enter the city with a big car when you need it.
Honestly, we should give up the concept of owning a car. We should all switch to a rent-when-you-need model.
Cars are a reasonable solution for some situations, and there’s no reason it can’t be a hobby. If we design cities for cars, invest in car infrastructure, and don’t build or invest in other transportation infrastructure, we get what we paid for.
A better perspective is we should design cities so you don’t need a personal car, design cities so a personal car is more expensive and less convenient.
Instead of worrying that people choose personal cars too often, let’s all worry that our cities don’t always offer any other option
Yup, I think passes would work, together with restrictions of where they park, and some system of effective enforcement.
I disagree with the ban of car ownership though. That’s just not the way. If you make it convenient enough to use alternatives, most people including the more vulnerable people will adopt it. Most people with families use cars because it’s just not practical to take the whole family in the bus. Not to mention people with disabilities that can’t use transit (e.g. Chronically I’ll or severe autism). Bans would affect these people disproportionately.
I think
bigcars should be prevented from entering anybigcity.With logical exceptions ofc (ambulance, some deliveries, moving, handicaps, …)
Where in the Netherlands does one need a truck? Especially those American ones. Strandwacht and boswacht are the ones I could think of (and than the more practical European style pickups).
Same for SUVs.
Europe isn’t build for big cars. It’s kind of dumb to rebuild all our cities to accommodate something we don’t need.
Cities should be built for people, not for cars.
I love projects where they actually make an effort to take this approach for new developments.
Such anthropocentrism!
Maybe nonhumans don’t matter to you, but some of us care!
Not only we don’t need them. They’re dangerous.
Good, but why the long wait?
How do I get involved in that? Who should we contact so that this is not just a letter but gets transformed into a bill?
The letter is from 30 associations among which the one of the website I linked. Try to contact them
Why 2035? Block sales now, and then prevent anyone who bought them from using them in 5 years or something.
While I would love that, companies also have rights and would immediately sue governments blocking car sales immediately after they already started production. It’s not that easy
I’ve said it’s stupid when the whole SUV crazy began some 15 years ago. Everyone rushing buying SUV’s to chug their children to school and everyone was buying them with excuse of safety and visibility. Nevermind that when everyone has these oversized dick compensators, no one is “safer” any longer and for visibility, people have proven they can’t drive for shit whether they are in a small hatchback or a tall SUV. They still don’t see shit and still hit things because they don’t actually look.
And there is no way going back, it’s just getting worse. Few years ago European sized SUV’s were the most we’ve seen. Now some are Murica sized SUV’s that are the size of aircraft carrier and I’m seeing more and more stupid pickup trucks like F150. And it’s not driven by some lumber worker who needs heavy equipment in a middle of forest, it’s always some rich posers driving them.
They can’t revert what has been done, they can just stop this madness at what it is now.
Honestly I think it was more than 15 years ago. As soon as “light trucks” (a category including SUVs) became less regulated than any other vehicle, it’s been aggressive marketing from automakers to push them. Remember when even the Simpsons was pushing how terrible and dangerous SUVs were with the canyonero? It’s just been political loopholes pushed by corporations, and now we live in a country where the top 3 best selling vehicles have all been 20 foot long pickups for years.
In my opinion that should by handled by vehicle taxes. If your car exceeds the dimensions cities are designed for right now, your tax increases. If it’s noticeably smaller/lighter (think kei car), you get a tax rebate.
People would be a lot more interested in compact vehicles if driving one made a real difference in their wallet.
Issue is, people who buy oversized SUVs already have money, they don’t really care if taxes on them increase. It’ll just become even greater showcase of who has cash to throw around and who doesn’t.
We won’t need to change maximum car size, we need to change average car size. Because right now politicians are arguing for a reduction in bike and foot paths and for more space to be dedicated to parking because the average car keeps getting bigger.
I didn’t care whether people who drive 100,000 € luxury SUVs keep doing so. But I do care whether sedans and hatchbacks get replaced by 20,000 € SUVs.
beyond a certain size should require a Commercial Drivers License as well
@Jesus_666 @RejZoR I agree, as long as non-car owners are considered. If a kei car owner gets a rebate, non-car owners should get an even bigger one.
Mind you, I’m talking about a partial rebate on the vehicle tax. People who don’t own cars don’t pay vehicle tax, of course.
Here in belgium the car and car-related expense are income-tax rebatable (because “you need to drive to work”).
I’m paying 2 times more taxes because I don’t have a car
they should introduce legislation that gradually shrinks the size of cars until eventually they’re too small for a person to fit inside of
True. My most pro car opinion is that the old metal ‘hot wheels’ were cool.
YES!
UK lawmakers - please take note also. Not just in cities but we find them jammed up in our country lanes too, and regularly crossing the centre line on B-roads.
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