I cannot fucking fathom the concept of going into a bathroom to look at people when I’m desperate to get in and out as fast as humanly (or even badger-ly considering how much I waddle) possible.

  • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    As I stated before, the amount of unreported crime is not relevant to the question of “is this situation plausible”. I mentioned it in the beginning because the statistic you provided is essentially irrelevant to the topic and inaccurate anyway. I provided my justification for this in my previous comment.

    1. TERFs are more likely to accuse someone of being trans than any other population of people. Let me clarify that in specific words. It is orders of magnitude more likely a TERF would accuse someone of being trans than any other demographic of person.

    2. Women have been harassed and assaulted because they were believed to be trans in just the past couple months. Here’s two examples for you. You might want to like actually have a clue what youre talking about before you start spouting off whatever. .

    3. The question of harassment is pertinent because nearly every kind of homophobic or transphobic assault is precipitated by harassment. Women have been assaulted over these accusations. It is not out of the realm of plausability that a woman would be assaulted on account of being accused of being transgender.

    Your comparison about a mech suit is wild. You do not possess the technology to have such a thing. TERFs exist and accuse people of being trans every single day. TERFs are extremists and have violent views towards trans people. The people they generally accuse of being trans are women. There are gender non-conforming TERFs.

    It is not unthinkable that a TERF could accuse another TERF of being trans, that much has absolutely happened before. It is also not unthinkable that a TERF would assault someone they thought was trans who was using the women’s bathroom.

    Ergo, not at all implausible. Again, rare, yes. Implausible, no.

    • testfactor@lemmy.world
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      I think at the end of the day what we are disagreeing over is the word plausible.

      If we both picked a random address somewhere in North America, is it plausible that we would happen to pick the same one? It’s possible, certainly, but vanishingly unlikely. Unlikely to the point that, if we did, I would presume something other than random chance was to blame. That is what I’m contesting here.

      I agree that TERFs are orders of magnitude more likely to assault someone than the average person. I agree that assault is proceeded by harassment. I agree that women have been assaulted in recent memory over this very issue.

      I agree with everything you’ve said. But none of that makes it “plausible” in the sense that it happening is something I would reasonably expect to happen. The statistical odds of it happening are relevant, in that they are so remote as to make the alternative explanation that it’s satire a vastly more plausible explanation. So much so that, when I read the headline, I immediately knew it was satire, and find it concerning that people didn’t.

      Sure, if I orchestrated two TERFs who might be mistaken as trans to go into the same bathroom at the same time, this might be a plausible outcome. But that orchestration is the required step. The scenario where they do go into the bathroom at the same time is the absurd part, and what makes this clearly satire.

      And, as an aside, I disagree with you about the mech suits. We do have mechanical exoskeleton prototypes. They’re not very practical for 99% of use cases, so they aren’t really used. But it’s not unfathomable that I could get one and ride it to work sometime in the next decade. It’s certainly not plausible, but it’s something I could make happen if I tried really hard to force it probably. Much like the thing we’re talking about.