I cannot fucking fathom the concept of going into a bathroom to look at people when I’m desperate to get in and out as fast as humanly (or even badger-ly considering how much I waddle) possible.

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    This may be satire, but the point is it’s ~700 times more likely to happen than a cis man transitioning just so he can go into a women’s bathroom and assault the women in there, which is apparently the existential threat to society that forced us to be so vigilant about who’s using which fucking toilet. Just saying.

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      There have been thousands of reports of this happening. These perverts are changing sex just to look at women in the bathroom.

      Some MAGA idiot may think we are posting for real … this is actually the crap that they echo back and forth to each other …

      “Verified: 18 instances of this in Pasco county alone. My source says they have to let some go because of lib pushback. I am a government insider with “Super Duper Top Sercret” (spelled wrong) Clearance … trust me!”

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      it’s statistics.

      even if it’s more likely that a trans woman be assaulted at a bathroom for being trans than a cis women.

      there are far more cis women who need shit, and therefore the vast majority of women who will be assaulted and likely jailed will be cis.

      congrats terfs, you just made it so there’s a minimum arbitrary beauty standard to be allowed to use public restrooms.

      it isn’t about bathrooms, as without them, one can’t leave the house for too long. ie, they banning “ugly” women from being in public.

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      there were already cases of cis women getting assaulted then arrested because some Karen decided to be a gender judge and assault people who need to shit.

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      The number of posts today that are clearly satire but everyone is taking this seriously is super high.

      I mean, this is the second, so not that high. But it’s weird that it’s happened twice.

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          “Completely plausible” you say, about an event that’s astronomically unlikely.

          The percentage of people being physically assaulted in bathrooms for being mistakenly identified as trans, while certainly a thing that heppens, isn’t exactly common. Certainly occurring less than once a day. There are millions of restrooms available to the public in some capacity in the US.

          (In case you want to dispute the “once a day” thing, there are about 3000 violent crimes total per day in the US. If you think that non trans people being assaulted for being presumed trans while in a bathroom is one of those 3000 every single day, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.)

          The odds that two people who are both the kind of person to physically assault a presumed trans person in a bathroom both going to the same bathroom, and both mistaking the other as a trans person is comically unlikely.

          Combine that with the fact that it’s the kind of comical situation that appeals to the particular brand of schadenfreude that works so well in online spaces like this, and it doesn’t even begin to tickle your, “hey this might be satire” sensors? I think that says more about your critical thinking skills than it does about the state of the nation.

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            There is also that the vast majority of gender critical feminists are women, and the majority of assaults are committed by men.

            I don’t worry about terfs assaulting me directly, while I suppose it’s possible, I worry they will weaponize law enforcement or some transphobic white knight against me.

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              Yeah, but there are a lot fewer people I would describe as “gender critical feminists.” But sure, happy to extend my numbers to cover Europe too if you want. They hold up there too. Unless you think brawls in women’s bathrooms are way more common in France than the good old USofA?

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                Terf island has quite a few. I don’t know how likely they are to attack people in bathrooms, but I wouldn’t put it past them.

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            This is all assuming that cisgender women being mistaken for transgender women and harassed / assaulted in the bathroom results in a report or a news story each time.

            There are 8 billion people alive. At least a billion live in places where trans rights are under an active coordinated attack by fascists. Once a day is sure to be a dramatic underestimation.

            Its also quite plausible that 2 fascist women would accuse each other of being trans. There is a paradoxically high proportion of gender non-conforming women in fascist communities in some places. All it really takes to be accused of being trans is being gender non-conforming. Therefore, absolutely a common event, and it is plausible that fascist women could be accused by other fascist women. They’re not the most mature people, having observed their attitudes and behaviors, simply being accused of being trans is probably enough for them to accuse their accuser of being trans. They’re generally very petulant and aggressive.

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              Of those 8 billion, how many would self describe as “gender critical feminists”? I’m betting that there aren’t a lot in, say, Saudi Arabia. It’s a pretty Anglocentric term.

              And I again refer back to the 3000 total violent crimes a day in the US. We can probably safely assume that the per-capita number is lower on most other countries with “gender critical feminists” as a prominent social group.

              So, if we say there are 3000 violent crimes per 350million people a day, how many of those do you think are a cis woman getting physically beaten up for being mistaken as a trans person?

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                Yeah, I’m saying that the 3000 number is not a reasonable assumption for the actual number of instances of harassment / assault per day in the US. The majority of instances of go unreported. Especially when it involves someone accusing a woman of being trans, unless its an outright police get involved situation its probably not going to be reported.

                It wasn’t how common it is, it’s how plausible it is. And yes I believe it is plausible.

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                  The most liberal estimate that I could find on how often violent crimes go unreported is 60%. So, to be extra generous let’s say there are 10,000 violent crimes per day. There’s still millions of bathrooms and hundreds of millions of people.

                  And, while we’re making a point of it. 80% of violent crimes are committed by men. So bring that 10k back down to 2k for the actual potential sample here.

                  You think one out of every 2000 violent crimes committed by women are violent TERFs beating up non-trans people that they thought were trans in public bathrooms? Because that’s what it would have to be to be once a day on average.

                  Or, maybe you think my liberal overestimate of unreported violent crime is wrong? What percent do you think goes unreported?

                  The odds of this are on par with a set of identical twins being struck by lighting at the same time while on different continents. Impossible? No. Implausible? Very much yes.

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        I mean this one isn’t that far out there. We just had a trans man arrested for using the women’s bathroom, which he was told to do (and I believe is law in some state) - https://www.advocate.com/news/trans-man-detained-south-carolina-restroom.

        There has also been cisgender women confronted in women’s bathrooms - https://www.advocate.com/news/lesbian-mistaken-transgender-arizona-walmart

        This is actually less ridiculous than calling the cops on someone in the bathroom.

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    this just proves cis people are a danger to women’s bathrooms and should be banned until we can figure things out