all states are authoritarian

Not in the same ways. You support dictatorships where workers have no power, nor the means to eventually hold power later down the line. I support neither capitalist regimes nor dictatorships pretending to be socialist.

To get rid of the state, all property needs to be collectivized, which both gets rid of class and the state itself.

Yes.

There’s no “promising to abolish” anything, the state gradually withers away with respect to class withering away as property is sublimated and collectivized.

No marxist can describe how this will happen. The dictators in charge do not have incentives to give away their power, nor are there other mechanisms in place that can bring about socialism. It’s literally just propaganda. Inequality in china is not withering away, there’s just a growing middle class the same way we had a growing middle class in other places where industrialization happened. The state owning and running things does not equate to socialism. It could, if there was democracy of some kind rather than oligarchy supplemented with very minor political participation from a fraction of the population.

I am a Marxist, yes. I became one after engaging with history, theory, logic, and practice. The fact that poor logic and false history doesn’t sway me doesn’t diminish my points. I haven’t seen any ethical arguments being brought up here.

Your auth states commit all the evils of capitalist empires and yet you still defend them. That’s not exactly ethical. Authoritarianism can’t be ethical in practice because of the incentives the people in power have to keep their power, and the things they do to keep it. “Communist” states are far more authoritarian than most liberal democracies, which is why I call them authoritarian. I call you authoritarian because you defend them and wish to implement similar oligarchies/dictatorships elsewhere. This is not to say I like liberalism, just by comparison your system is in many ways worse. Unions are way more suppressed, people are less active politically, and there are no big benefits to make up for it. Genocide is still happening, billionaires are still being produced, freedom of speech is still suppressed, etc. Like yeah we can sit here and compare metrics and see both capitalist and marxist states are doing good and bad in all sorts of different ways. Both systems work to a point. I don’t care. I want actual democracy. I want actual freedom. I want actual socialism, or at least a system which can produce socialism unlike your auth vanguard states.

I will be blocking you after this.

Edit: To me the big mystery is why defend these states? Why aim for vanguard states? Can’t we aim for something better rather than something that has “succeeded”? Why do we have to choose between liberalism and marxism when we can instead try to work towards actual socialism?

The revolution comes, comrade :3

I will not be an enemy of existing socialism or of the working class of those countries.

You already are, auth

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Can I recommend giving this a read? It’s a great resource for getting a decent understanding of some trans stuff. Covers a lot of what we feel and go through, and also the effects of hormones and such. There’s a chapter on intersex conditions also. Lots of good stuff!

Eneste som ikke er lov er testosteron og sånt for transmaske :( Østrogen, blokkere, og progesteron er ikke ulovlig (sånn som jeg forstår det iaf) men er ikke lov å selge.

Ja om det du kjøper blir tatt i tollen (som skjer ofte desverre), så tar de det, men så lenge du ikke svarer på noe så får du ikke noe problemer. Kan hende de sender brev og spør om du har resept og sånt, og da svarer man ikke altså. De fleste selgere har 1 gratis omsending om ting blir tatt, men etter det så må man kjøpe på nytt. Sjekk at det de sender forkledes som noe annet, det er ganske viktig for at ting ofte skal komme gjennom. Kalles gjerne stealth.

Personlig har ca 50%-70% kommet gjennom?

Om du skal kjøre DIY anbefaler jeg at du leser grunndig og nøye gjennom guider og om stoffene etc. Kort fortalt er det tryggeste å ta kun østrogen gjennom injeksjoner. De andre metodene krever som regel at du også tar en hormon blokker som over tid ikke er optimale for helsen din. De er ikke super dårlige i de dosene vi tar for HRT men om du kan unngå dem er det best. Jeg anbefaler ikke piller. Det er den verste måten å ta østrogen på. Om sprøyter høres skummelt ut (det er skummelt til å starte med men er egentlig veldig chill!) så kan du prøve spray eller gelé i stedet! Det fungerer veldig bra, men man må ta flere ganger per dag da i stedet for 1 gang per uke som med injeksjon.

Jeg anbefaler uansett da at du ber om å bli referert til riksen, selv om du bestemmer deg for å gjøre ting på egenhånd. De har lange ventelister, men om du får kjønnsinkongruensdiagnose av dem får du statsstøtte på diverse greier som hårfjerning, kirurgi, stemmetrening, osv.

Telling trans people that disclosing their trans status in medical contexts on the surface seems defensible, but it seems to me that it may be more motivated by a desire to reduce trans people to their assigned sex in medical contexts, which in the end is less about good medicine and more about cis-sexist norms.

Yeah. I’ve yet to have a medical professional gender me correctly in reports. I’m a man who thinks he’s a woman to them. They all seem so pleasant until I read their reports and see what they were actually thinking.

Edit: This is Jorunn btw :P just with my lemmy account

Kommentaren federer enda så svarer her på lemmy kontoen min i stedet. Nei var i en liten by i nordland, på vop. Det beste du kan gjøre er å flytte til oslo og komme deg inn på HKS om du er 30 el yngre. Du må bo i oslo for å få behandling der. Alternativene er riksen (som suger, de er onde, det tar veldig lang tid, og kan hende de bare sender deg hjem for å “ikke være trans nok”), eller imago (dyrt og kun over nett). Du kan forsåvidt også begynne med hormoner på egenhånd som jeg gjør. Vi har en lemmy community med lenker og ressurser, men den faktiske aktive communitien er på matrixen om du vil gjøre DIY. Det finnes noen leger som skriver ut hormoner, men da må man være heldig eller finne gjennom andre trans folk. Om du er transmask er det også mulig å få tak i hormoner gjennom de som bruker steroider og sånt. Det er samme greierne. Ah, ser ut som du er transfem <3

Legen min gav meg ikke store problemer fordi jeg er trans, han bare hjalp meg ikke forbi simple blodprøver. VOP var problemet for meg, og siden jeg var i en liten by hadde jeg ikke noen andre behandlere å gå til. De er redd for at det at du er trans skal være svært forstyrrende og gjøre det vanskelig å vite hva som er at du er trans og hva som er andre problemer. De var også redde for at hormoner (jeg tar ikke en gang blokker) skulle påvirke adhd medisin som er latterlig. Mange leger er nok også litt redde for hvordan det at du er trans påvirker andre ting fordi de ikke har kompetanse om det og fordi de ikke har tiden / ikke orker å sette seg inn i det. Du kan spørre folk på trans norge discorden eller transnord redditen om forslag til leger og frisører og sånt.

Håper jeg har svart på spørsmålet ditt <3

While stuff like that sucks it’s not quite comparable to what trans people go through.

Its explicitly trans

Valid :P

It’s actually !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Haha no :P

While some of those came about through socialist revolutions they were hijacked by the military who retained the socialist rhetoric. The actual state that followed the revolutions were never socialist, they were at best military dictatorships with some social policies comparable to social democracies.

The USSR is interesting as it was a planned economy. The others are just state capitalist however.

You should read about the revolutions and how they failed! It was never the socialism itself that failed, because it was never implemented in the first place! That’s the difficult part.

In general the more egalitarian the system the more obstacles to implement as those who own things have less incentives to implement it (and will do whatever they can to squash it or redirect it). It’s not coincidence that liberalism came about only after we got capitalists and a sizeable middle class. We ddin’t get democracy because it is a good system, we got it because it was a way for capitalists and the middle class to gain political power. With socialism there is no upper class that will support the revolution, no businesses or government will be on our side because it directly threatens them.

We have a word for those who claim they are a socialist yet support the states you mentioned. We call them tankies. Socialists and anarchists despise them because they are in many ways just like fascists, yet they try to worm their way into our spaces.

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I think that utopian socialism is beautiful, but it doesn’t take into account human behaviors like greed, hate, rancor, etc

It specifically does! Also utopian socialism is not a thing these days!

Wasn’t really ever worth it. There has been calculable dehumanization, exploitation, and genocides all in the name of profit and efficiency. The quality of life going up for some of us in some parts (which is largely because of unions anyways) should not excuse the harm that capitalism has done and continues to do.

As you say, the incentives in the system are not towards a prosperous and stable society, but towards maximizing how much you can squeeze out of people.

So in my opinion it was never worth it is essentially what I’m saying.

Yes.

As others have mentioned democratic socialism is a form of socialism.

Socialism is a society where people own and run things together, without capitalism or feudalism or whatever. It is the idea that everyone should own their workplace and their home, either directly or through a state/community they own with everyone else in it. The spirit of socialism is removing all exploitative systems in favor of cooperative solutions. It would mean no renting out locales or apartments, and no bosses (as in owners) etc. There is also this idea that capital and currency should not be a thing as it tends to quickly go into the hands of a few over time, and so we are therefore often in favor of other systems of distributing goods.

Social democracy is liberalism (a form of capitalism) but with social safety nets and systems to limit the harm that capitalism can do, such as strong unions and labor laws. Originally social democracy was implemented by socialists who wanted to slowly bring about socialism, but it has mellowed out a lot and now it’s just what you and I describe.

Edit: I feel I should mention that social democracy is generally considered to be in decline. Union participation is down, things are being privatized, labor laws revoked. The socially democratic parties have not just mellowed out it seems, but have drifted right. They often seem more concerned with maintaining the status quo than with improving society.

This is democratic socialism. Allow capitalism, but keeping extremes in check, while providing a safety net.

I see americans saying this fairly often, but what you describe is social democracy, not democratic socialism

They chose this topic because it is divisive. If we drop out of sports they will simply find another arena of life to eject us from. It’s not about sports for right wing politicians and interest groups, but about getting conservatives engaged in bigotry against us so they become angry and polarized and vote for bigoted parties.

We can never make them happy with our behavior because our behavior doesn’t matter. The narrative they weave around us matters to them, not reality.

objectively

• https://www.forbes.com/sites/lindseyedarvin/2024/04/25/transgender-athletes-could-be-at-a-physical-disadvantage-new-research-shows/
• https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/11/577.full?ijkey=yjlCzZVZFRDZzHz&keytype=ref

There are very few studies on the topic. Do not reply to this comment as we will not allow a debate on this very divisive topic quite literally designed to use transphobia for political gain by the right.

I will say this: It’s possible trans women have some advantages, and it’s also possible we have disadvantages. Either way in reality there has not been any issues of trans women infiltrating sports and ruining it in any way. Until there is more data debating our participation in sports is not worthwhile. Remember that this topic is being pushed by lobby organizations specifically because it gets people riled up.