• NateNate60@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I think it is very common knowledge that the biggest downside of democracy is the general stupidity of most of the voting population.

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      9 months ago

      Not inherently stupid, mind you. Un(der)educated and lied to by those they should be able to trust.

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      9 months ago

      I guess we should let the smart people choose what’s right for them, and not give them a vote……

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            9 months ago

            The system is described in Plato’s Republic. You can learn more about it on Wikipedia. This idea pre-dates the concept of “left” and “right”.

            I made a slight mistake in my previous comment. Plato was the one who came up with it, but his work is in the form of a Socratic dialogue.

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              9 months ago

              Hey, aren’t those the guys that argued repeatedly that slavery is natural and good?

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                9 months ago

                Ancient Greek philosophers’ views on slavery are complex and can’t be boiled down to a reply that would retain all the nuance yet would not be annoyingly long to read. Nonetheless, their views on slavery do not invalidate their views on politics.

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                  9 months ago

                  Yes it does, Mr Cryptofascist unironically arguing to restrict the vote to landowning males.

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                    9 months ago

                    Are you unable to grasp that someone can explain an opinion without holding said opinion? Are you unable to grasp that I can describe a political system without advocating for it? That I can show the history behind it without endorsing it?

                    Are you unable to grasp that you can agree with someone on one topic without agreeing with them on everything? Are you unable to grasp that people are more than one-dimensional points on a spectrum and that there can be nuance and intricacies in their way of thinking, some of which is agreeable, some of which is not? That no idea or person can be described merely as a binary choice of “good” or “bad”?

                    Or have you no grasp at all of the rules of logic and the art of rhetoric, leaving you with nothing but strawmen and ad hominem left?