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      Because the DEA doesn’t have the legal authority to do that. Congress laid out the criteria for scheduling drugs in the Controlled Substances Act and any reasonable person would say marijuana meets the criteria for at least schedule 5. Congress needs to do what they did for alcohol and nicotine and pass a law that specifically excludes marijuana.

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      I assume most are for rescheduling, or respecting state’s choice, or maybe they’re more concerned with systemic inequality and foreign genocide with US armaments.

      Also, though, the Biden Administration has been pushing for the DEA to reschedule marijuana for like 3 years…

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        more concerned with systemic inequality and foreign genocide

        …what in this prevents them from doing their job and actually forwarding a pretty objectively good bill?

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            Unironically, yes. They can’t be doing everything all at once when it takes their full power to even force topics to be discussed on the senate floor and write proposals. Every second that Bernie Sanders talks about weed, for example, would stop him from putting up pictures of Palestinian children begging for water.

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          Their time? What do you think the senate is, they all just say whatever is on their mind and everybody votes for or against it on the spot?

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        or respecting state’s choice

        I’d love to hear the logic of how federal descheduling takes away a states choice…

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          The states have demonstrably had the choice to decriminalize Marijuana since 1973, not doing so by now can be seen as their choice to keep it a restricted substance.

          EDIT: To be clear, I’m explaining their thoughts on the subject, not agreeing with them.

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            If a state has zero laws about cannabis federal schedule makes it illegal

            And many of the states that haven’t legalized use the federal schedule as rational.to not legalize.

            If they want them illegal, they can pass a law making them illegal. That’s how it’s supposed to be work.

            Not states having to legalize something on a state level because the federal government claims it’s one of the most dangerous drugs in the country, but won’t actually enforce people flagrantly breaking the law…

            Have you ever tried reading anything about this? Like, ever?

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        Descheduling is respecting the states’ choices. Legalization at the national level doesn’t automatically make it legal in states.

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    Elizabeth Warren (Mass.),

    John Fetterman (Pa.)

    Chuck Schumer (N.Y.)

    Cory Booker (N.J.)

    Jeff Merkley (Ore.)

    Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.)

    Ron Wyden (Ore.)

    John Hickenlooper (Colo.)

    Peter Welch (Vt.)

    Chris Van Hollen (Md.)

    Alex Padilla (Calif.).

    Edit: and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

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      11 Democratic senators, along with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

      He already got left out of the headline

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        He’s there.

        In a letter addressed to Attorney General Merrick Garland and DEA Administrator Anne Milgram, 11 Democratic senators, along with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), argued the administration “should deschedule marijuana altogether.”

        They could have said “12 Senators…”

        But went with the option that excluded Bernie since he’s not a D.

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            He’s never been a D

            But he’s very open about how the two party system sucks and if he ran third party it would.only hurt progress

            So every election he runs in the democratic primary. And abides by the results.

            It’s why him wanting to stay till he was eliminated and getting called a “spoiler” is such bullshit. If Bernie really wanted to, he could have nuked any Dem candidate by running third party in the general.

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      If election theater motivates this policy and makes this happen then I’m all for it. I wonder what our criminal AG in Texas thinks about all this, considering he’s trying to do the opposite in cities with lax marijuana enforcement.

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        Even if marijuana was descheduled, it would still be illegal due to Texas state law

        I think most states in which it is illegal would remain illegal. Many states would probably update their laws in response to the DEA descheduling it.

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          Many states have laws based on the federal schedule and don’t specifically name any drugs, so there would be some immediate effects.

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          If the law only references federal definitions of scheduled drugs, they would need to update their laws before this went into effect or else risk letting the population have legal weed for a short window, which likely would spur voters to try and regain their newly found drug

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            Right, which is why I bothered to link Texas law, which references by name.

            My own state references it by name. I suspect many/most state marijuana laws predate the formation of the DEA but I’m not a historian/lawyer.

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              Sure texas is covered, but we got a lot of states. A ton are going to need proactive laws or else risk kicking a hornets nest in an election year

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          Many states would probably update their laws in response to the DEA descheduling it.

          Importantly too, they’d have to police it using their own state resources.

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        Biden does good thing

        Idiots: “He’s only doing this to get votes!”

        Yeah, no shit sherlock, that’s the whole point of the system.

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      What’s the likelihood a rock from space hits Trump in his diaper?

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        Much lower considering rescheduling marijuana is a basic government act and not a ridiculously unlikely astronomical event. Also, it would gain Biden a lot of votes.

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          Also, it would gain Biden a lot of votes.

          And send the theocracy into a rage in another dimension, one in which they wouldn’t be sure why their hair is falling out

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            As far as I understand it, the DEA has the independence to make the decision themselves and all the president can do is tell them what he wants.

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      Depends on if Biden thinks he can get the support he needs by just pretending to look into it some more.

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    how evil, maybe one day people will understand that marijuana, along with all the other drugs that people seem to think aren’t harmful despite having existed in our societies for 100 years, are a threat to individuals, the broader society, and deserve to be completely outlawed

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        the one’s that teach people that harmful substances are good lol, take your shite words and come back with an argument

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          Prohibition of things never works. It only creates an unregulated black market, and a new type of criminal to incarcerate.

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            less people would consume the prohibited substance because it’s not something that is required to live, and it would never have been something that appeared in culture if it weren’t permitted by people as it is now, the only reason that alcohol didnt work in the prohibition is because it was most people’s lifestyle to drink on occasions

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          Wait, you’re not trolling? You actually believe this? Are you a kid, or did the DARE propaganda actually work on you?

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              Okay, so it wasn’t DARE then, it was whatever brand of DARE your country has. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. If you aren’t a troll, then you really need to sit down and think about why you have the opinion of a 12 year old.

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                it takes no genius to simply search for answers and know that weed is linked to poor development if consumed during adolescence, and it also takes no genius to see how retarded frequent smokers of it get when they cant get any

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                  Nobody is advocating for giving weed to children in this thread…

                  And you’re argument about frequent smokers being ‘retarded’ isn’t even true. I know plenty of people who smoke. You’re just making stuff up.

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        alcohol is because we’ve had it for thousands of years and it has been known to be fine when consumed in moderation (something 99% of people can do), whereas tobacco is not something that you can just “smoke on occasion”, it is exclusively smoked either by those trying it for the first time, or by those who are hooked already (not to mention the fact that alcohol is much worse than tobacco over a lifetime regardless)

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          It turns out that even “moderate” alcohol consumption is likely very bad for you.

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            false, i can’t name a single person i know who has suffered medical issues related to alcohol consumption who i know personally

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      Well, you’re completely wrong. On so many levels.

      First, the majority of other people don’t obsess over finding things to be afraid of. You did not base your opinion on any kind of empirical evidence. You need something to be afraid of in other to justify your perspective, and drugs are an easy target. Second, with regards to hard drugs that do present a clear danger to the user, prohibition is not effective and never will be. Addiction is a medical issue. Criminalization denies the victim any realistic chance of rehabilitation, not to mention penalizing them in specific ways that will only be likely to increase their likelihood of abusing drugs in the future.

      Way to broadcast your lack of empathy for your fellow man

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        that’s a cool comment, unfortunately you took the time out of your day to respond

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          Your bait is weak, and it goes nowhere immediately. Look how quickly you had to stoop to edgelord verbage to keep the hook.

          If youre going to troll, at least do it well. Its a fuckin embarassment to be a bad troll

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              See, like this. Youre already out of responses, and the thread is bare bones.

              You dont even get that Im baiting you into getting banned. Did you start doing this without reading any of your instances site rules?

              This is sloppy work, you need to step up your game.

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                i’ve been here for like 6 months lol, if i truly felt like the rules were an issue, i’d up and make my own server for it, but please do keep whining to your lord :)

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          Took time out of my day? TOOK TIME OUT OF MY DAY!?! This is my day. This is my whole week if I deem it entertaining enough. Maybe it’s because I’m all burnt out on weed, but I have nothing better to do, and replying to you is just as much fun as the expert trolling you think you are doing. I live here. I won’t leave until it is burned to the ground. If you want a competition of who can last the longest with out getting bored, then I hope you have diet soda and nuggies handy.

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            you get awfully heated up when presented with prophetical statements, are you judas?

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              Sorry, I was just acting the part. Let me tone it down for you. No, I’m right because of the things I call facts and you can’t tell me otherwise because I’m just a troll

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                  But but but, the things I see with my eyes are true, and you say the things you see are true, and that’s like totally opposites. How do we get to keep making facts with our eyes if every one sees it differently

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        No need for whataboutism here, the original statement you’re replying to is already demonstrably false. You can easily address their actual argument.