Cycle to work every day, 3 miles one way, I know in my bones from repeated experiences that the bigger the vehicle, the less likely they see you
That one picture of even front-end visibility always stuck with me. It’s something stupid like 15 kids in a line and the driver can’t see them. You could drive into a classroom worth of children and not see it.
If it’s the same one I’m thinking of, a couple/few of the biggest trucks have less visibility than an M1-A1 Abrams TANK…
To be fair I’m pretty sure Abrams (and most other modern western tanks) have really good driver’s/commander’s sights compared to any vehicle at all
I’m talking the old version that didn’t have the fancy helmets to see through the tank. The commander may have some good sights, but the drivers didn’t.
Oh, gotcha
I had a guy in a pickup drive right into my 8ft long trailer when I as stopped at a light. He pulled up to me while I was stopped fine, but then he couldn’t see my trailer and 30 seconds later started rolling forward while the light was still red and hit it. I was very annoyed and when I talked to him he said he forgot it was there and couldn’t see it. I was speechless.
Can confirm, for me about 10 miles one way and the bigger the car the more likely they don’t see you or don’t care.
The front ends on the newest full-size SUVs and pick-ups look like 18-wheeler front-ends from the ‘70s.
I’m getting really annoyed by these articles about saint Hidalgo. Resident parking ie for people who live within the city parish limit won’t be subject to these new prices. But it is the people with really high income who live in the 8e and 16e who drive around Paris in Range Rovers and Audi Q7, alone in their cars, not the cleaning people from La Courneuve and Saint Denis who works in the offices and uses the RER B to commute to work. Not your regular office people as they either commute or bike to the office. And for those of us who decide to move further away from the first ring of surburb, we do have cars but use public transit if we need to go to Paris, either for work or leisure as it’s a lot faster and far less expensive.
It’s just a damn smoke screen as Parisians won’t be affected.
Translation for non-Parisians:
- Hidalgo is the current mayor of Paris, who has an (arguably false?) reputation for promoting urbanist policies
- 6e and 18e refer to two districts («arrondissement») in Paris populated by rich people
- RER B is a transit line connecting central Paris with Parisian suburbs
Thank you. As a non-parisian dude, I wanted to ask that, and your comment was just in time to answer my curiosity.
Peut-être les automobilistes parisiens seront-ils affectés dans un second temps?
J’ai beaucoup de doutes sur ça. Elle a beau dire qu’elle souhaite protéger les gens de petite couronne avec cette votation, jusqu’à présent ses actions ont été en faveur des parisiens et contre les banlieusards. Ça m’étonnerait qu’elle ait changé sa vision d’un coup, elle en a juste assez de se faire taper par les élus d’IdF pour ses décisions non-concertées donc elle s’ajoute un polish « altruiste ».
Sur le principe, je suis d’accord avec limiter l’usage des SUV, nos infrastructures ne sont pas faites pour mais soit c’est tout le monde qui prend soit personne.
Et comment tu continues une politique d’urbanisme si t’es pas réélue ? Sa mesure reste positive, et introduit l’idée qui sera sûrement appliquée à la fois ailleurs, et plus tard à Paris même.
People in Slovakia keep buying them more and more and they don’t even fit into the parking spaces…
Aw what? I’m trying to move to Slovakia partially because I want to escape this nonsense (though also because my grandfather’s family is Slovak-Hungarian and I like Slovak language), this is devastating news for my distaste for being crushed by large objects travelling at fast speeds
But ma big ride!
Le big ride
Royale with Wheels
“Mah ride”
This is the best summary I could come up with:
No, I’m not talking about the mad rush for Wegovy, which is selling so swiftly that Denmark has to remove data relating to manufacturers Novo Nordisk to measure (the rest of) its economy properly.
The individual logic makes sense: would you want to drive on the same highway as Mr Tinydick’s 7,000lb (3,175kg) Dodge Ram if you’re in a Mini?
The measure, which would include hybrids and electric vehicles over a certain weight limit – though with an exemption for Paris resident parking – would affect roughly 10% of the cars in the city.
And beyond Paris, Tesla’s 6,800lb (3,080kg) Cybertruck probably won’t be coming to Europe at all, because at that weight, it requires a trucking licence to drive (I write this with a sigh of relief).
Hidalgo’s administration has pitched the increased parking fee as a form of social justice (taxing the owners of expensive cars) as well as a way to encourage use of public transport.
The next time I go back to the US, I wouldn’t be surprised to find someone driving an actual tank down the street, probably on their way to Krispy Kreme.
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Tesla’s 6,800lb (3,080kg) Cybertruck probably won’t be coming to Europe at all, because at that weight, it requires a trucking licence to drive
The maximum gross weight allowed for a “car“ driver license is 3500kg.
The cybertruck has a gross weight of 4300kg, which highly exceeds the 3500kg
In my country, for electric cars, they raised limit (gross/max. weight) to 4250 kg. Probably by the car lobby.
According to the specs, the AWD trim has max. weight of 4238 kg.
So, no problem with the standard drivers license.
If only
CyberUglytruck gets the EU approval.In my country, for electric cars, they raised limit (gross/max. weight) to 4250 kg. Probably by the car lobby.
Also because, otherwise, electric workvans are impossible
The US is full of SUVs because of CAFE law. SUVs are trucks and thus have lower mpg requirements. Look at what’s sold in the US. Almost all cars are tiny and grossly underpowered if more than 1 adult is in it. So our choices are a truck, SUV, or minivan.
I can go on vacation for a month with my family of four in my 2008 Prius
It needs to absolutely be regulated. I don’t really want to get an SUV, but I might for my own safety when 3/4 of other cars on the road are monsters.
How about a Sports Utility Bicycle?
estonia is slowly
We’re still very far from US sized cars.
It’s mostly to remove the vehicles responsible for the most emissions.
Well I see more and more morons who are certainly not farmers drive around in Dodge RAMs and Ford F150s
I mean, parking with a big car would be more of a nightmare than it is already in small-sized europe.
I guess that’s the actual objective. Making driving unbearable
This should be an easy fix for France (or any country). Don’t make dumb laws.
Dumb laws or laws smartly written by the automobile industry themselves?
Oh no, how would small dick rich parisians even compensate with that law in place?!
I mean, i agree. The amount of American sized cars i see in the netherlands nowadays is a lot.
But they are pretty awesome cars so i get why someone would want one.
I really have a hard time understanding what is “awesome” in these cars ? They are clearly not built to be efficient to drive in old European cities, and (even though that is very subjective) they aren’t nice to look at either.
Especially SUV… The space for your stuff ist often less than in a station wagon.
I don’t understand that part. I’ve got a 20-year-old f150, and it’s roomier than my parents’ new Highlander. That thing’s fuckin’ cramped compared to other stuff. Hell, the legroom in our 1991 Previa van is enormous compared to
nearernewer Toyota shit.I am 6’ in freedom units and I was fine in 98 of 100 cars legroom wise, especially for distances within the city. And having a f150 because of legroom in a European city would really be antisocial behavior. You’re a handyman, ok…but as a private person? My point is that people have a BMW SUV because I need the space for my kids soccer training , but a VW Passat station wagon would give the same space, steal less space from other people, an accident would be less likely be deadly for others involved and less gas consumption. There are people needing big cars, but most ppl do not.
Prolly could’ve put it better. Not that I didn’t understand your point, but I don’t understand how fuckin’ cramped the new shit is now, despite being so goddamned chunky.
And I didn’t want to sound rude to you.
I think I understand your point now
Oh, you didn’t! 's’all good.
They have PDD and they either get a massive truck or a motorcycle that is as noisy as possible.
Piddly Dick Disease?
And those are usually still small versions of the ones they actually sell in the US
Little weirdos are obsessed with the US. Buy whatever you want, why they gotta try to make this about America when this is just about European buying habits?
As an American living in Europe that travels back and forth every year, I can assure you that this trend is absolutely led by the Americans.
Do you honestly think they care about the US? They are just saying no to big cars. That’s it.
Not many people know the US even has a habit of buying bigger cars than in Europe.
It’s in the article, isn’t it? If they weren’t writing American flame bait, it would just be about European buying trends. You don’t have to say they are rejecting anything.
Neither of the SUVs I’ve owned were American. The Germans were happy enough to make and sell one of them while the Koreans made the other.
I’m just tired of articles being written like it’s a rejection of American ideals when it probably isn’t a factor on anyone’s mind at the time of purchase. Rage bait, pure and simple.
Peoples reaction to my post kinda demonstrates why it works, though. They are so anti-american that being called on the unnecessary inclusion of us in the headline gets people upset. Don’t let your media turn us into boogiemen for the cars that some people buy. We do enough real shit to get mad about without making up stuff.
The Guardian is making this about the American… The Paris vote was framed around big cars (“SUV”).
Are we not discussing the article? We are using this website differently, I guess.
Yes we are, the rest of us are cognizant of more than just the article. You should try it some time.
Rude and wrong.
We love many great trends from youe coumtry: your music, your TV shows,… Some of us also love some not so great trends like your oversized cars. You don’t have to get on your high horse to spite us, we can do it ourselves.
