Perhaps you’ve noticed. We have reached a tipping point in the country over tipping.

To tip or not to tip has led to Shakespearean soliloquies by customers explaining why they refuse to tip for certain things.

During the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, customers were grateful for those who seemingly risked their safety so we could get groceries, order dinner or anything that made our lives feel normal. A nice tip was the least we could do to show gratitude.

But now that we are out about and back to normal, the custom of tipping for just about everything has somehow remained; and customers are upset.

A new study from Pew Research shows most American adults say tipping is expected in more places than it was five years ago, and there’s no real consensus about how tipping should work.

  • callouscomic@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Tipping was always stupid from day 1. I’ve spent most of my life being told I’m a moron for being against tipping culture and instead wanting fair wages and clear prices. Suddenly in recent years people realize how stupid tipping is simply cause it went to its logical extreme. People are morons.

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      1 year ago

      People are morons but if you’re from the states, which I’m guessing you are, there’s a far more densely concentrated amount of morons.

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        1 year ago

        I used to think that way as well, but extensive international travel has shown me the error of my ways; turns out that morons are pretty evenly distributed throughout the world.

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          Fair enough, my extensive international travel cemented it honestly.

          There’s plenty of other horrible tourists, I’d say the Brits are the worst in terms of young kids getting drunk and buck wild. But I’ll never forget the guy from Illinois who had his concealed carry permit wrapped in gladwrap in his wallet in Thailand and he tried to fight me over his rights when I quizzed him on why you would ever bring your permit overseas as the mere question of why you’d bring the licence was enough to threaten his right to guns.

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        I don’t think people are getting stupider, I think they’re just more confident in their stupidity. People used to defer to experts when they didn’t know something, but now they believe their opinion is as valid as any.

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      If you are for fair wages and clear prices, that means you’re actively boycotting all restaurants right? You wouldn’t be a hypocrite to still patronize these establishments that exploit their workers and expect you to cover the difference right?

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        1 year ago

        I generally do not go to these kinds of places. When I do, I still tip, but I don’t like it. But yes, I hardly ever partake in businesses that operate this way.

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      Every moron who doesn’t tip thinks this way. Nobody wants to tip, and hopefully someday it will be universally abolished, but until then, this is the way it is and people are just trying to supplement their minimum wages to make a livable income. So just tip them appropriately for the work they do for you already, you moron. I guarantee that as a non-tipper, you are on many service workers’ shit lists, so I guess if you’re not getting good service, it’s your own fault.

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        Tipping for a service is all well and good, but what about someone who is just running a register and the kiosk asks if you’d like to add a tip? Like restaurants when I am picking up an order. There was no service involved, yet I’m expected to tip the person who hands me the bag? I think not.

        Also the arbitrary way we as a society have determined who does and doesn’t deserve a tip. Hotel housekeeping? Customary to tip. Shuttle bus driver, not so much.

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          Why I always love to argue about this with people. It always devolves into “you tip for good service,” and nobody understands my suggestion that service should always be good regardless.

          So I always ask them, “why don’t you tip your surgeon then? What if they do a bad job? Shouldn’t you tip them to ensure they don’t do a bad job?” And I never get good responses. “Well, they already get paid well and they CAN’T do a bad job.” We arbitrarily tip some jobs and not others. And there are definitely low wage jobs out there which do far more important things to our everyday lives, but people don’t SEE it so they stupidly don’t make the connection and say “this doesn’t make sense.”

          People also love to argue that prices will go up without tipping since people would need to be paid more since they don’t get tips. Yet again, they are too stupid to realize their actual price includes the tips already. It’s not going to be dramatically more. It also sometimes reveals that people generally don’t give a shit about others, in that if we paid a little more so others can have livable wages, most won’t go for that in reality.

          These are probably the same morons who think they pay federal income taxes and talk about “muh tax dollars” and never understand their refund gave them all of it back plus some, equating to welfare.

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        FYI, I don’t go to places that expect tipping. But thanks for presuming I don’t tip at all.

        Also, as a previous tip-based service worker, I know all this already. But again, thanks for presuming only YOU know things.

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        Hurrdurr things are bad but I can’t fix them so I’ll blindly accept them. If you don’t, you’re a bad person.