The northern Italian city of Padua has started removing the names of non-biological gay mothers from their children’s birth certificates under new legislation passed by the “traditional family-first” government of Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni.

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    I know that the international ultra conservative movement wants to erase LBGTQ rights, but this is one I hadn’t considered. Chiseling away the rights of gay parents in order to jealously guard the “traditional” family is mean and stupid.

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      Honestly I’m surprised it was ever allowed. A birth certificate should serve as a historical genealogical record and might be useful for tracking, for example, hereditary diseases like Huntington’s. It’s not much use if it’s got an unrelated adoptive parent on it. Maybe there should be an additional field for legal caregiver when there’s a difference.

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          I would say it should still function as a genealogical record for a number of reasons, particularly as a useful medical record. If unknown, that should be specified - or include a reference to their anonymous medical records.

          There could be another field for adoptive second parent at birth, if this is necessary. Otherwise I can see how it might cause problems for the adoptive parent in the event of a divorce. Although my understanding is this is already a formalised process, just different paperwork.

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            Although my understanding is this is already a formalised process, just different paperwork.

            You’d be entirely correct in that understanding. Unfortunately the actual facts of the situation don’t make for a convincing piece of propaganda about just how victimized people are.

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    Traditional family-first is good approach, I only wonder why care so much about non traditionals, they probably won’t make traditional family anyway lol.

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    From the article “Surrogacy is illegal in Italy, and gay marriage has not been legalized. Because same-sex relationships aren’t recognized in law, the non-biological parent has to make a special case for legally adopting their child.”

    Makes sense, local government is simply following the law.

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          As someone who probably would have had to deal with a decade of abuse and neglect as a child if such a change had happened in Texas 20 years ago, I can prefer confidently say yes, it is monstrous.

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            Who would be abusing you for your birth parents being on your birth certificate? The only people who see that document are the people raising you and the DMV/Passport office.

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              …do you not understand how an abusive parent being on the birth certificate would have legal and custody implications?

              That’s not something that only the DMV/passport office sees, family judges see and may use that to determine custody arrangements, which can lead to abuse. I’m not sure how you managed to ignore the biggest and most obvious implications of changing parentage on the birth certificate.

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                …do you not understand how an abusive parent being on the birth certificate would have legal and custody implications?

                One’s adoptive parents have full custody, that is the point of adoption.

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                  It’s unfortunate that this community just mass downvotes anyone percieved as going against the approved narrative, even if it’s literally just stating facts.

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      Makes sense, local government is simply following the law.

      … is what a fascist sympathizer would say in this situation.

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    I guess Italy needs a reminder of what the rest of the world did to them the last time they chose Fascism.