Throwing a few molotovs don’t do anything.
Either you do it completely peaceful and try to sway public opinion;
OR
You have to have to actually have enough guns and people on your side to start an armed insurrection and go all the way, I mean like french style, all the way to DC
A half-assed riot is worse than either option.
When the riot cops show up, take your protest somewhere else. Play hide and seek with the fuckers, targeting the oligarchs one by one, all through town.
They can be strong somewhere. They can’t be strong everywhere. Keep them moving, keep them chasing you around.
You don’t even need to revolt.
Just having a fully-armed protest is enough. Cops are pussies when there’s a credible threat of violence.
fully-armed protest
Until you go home for the night then they raid your house when you’re sleeping and shoot you to death, individually to each of your houses, one by one.
Or just do this. (Now they even have autonomous drones, skipping the the possibility of a human refusing orders)
A show of force doesn’t mean anything to them unless you are willing to use that force. Don’t threaten action, skip directly to doing the action and surprise them. Don’t tell them your plans before executing the plan.
Yes bever forget the curage they shiwed fulled armed abd outnumbering the shooter at Uvalde. They stood around fir 90 minutes and did nothing.
True.
A friend of mine was a cop for two years in Kansas, and a major focal point of their training is personal safety, which is why you see cops doing nothing in so many of these clear emergency situations. They’re trained not to be a hero.
Ill sharpen the guillotine
Get it on tape! Or better yet livestream!
Like Floyd did?
I mean, yes always get it on tape and spread it as widely as you can before they seize it for “evidence”, but don’t expect anything to come of it.
The regular media will parrot the party line
The Peaceful LA Protests of June, 2025 worked. We’re all talking about it now. If the LA protests weren’t peaceful, we would have different talking points for this weekend’s protests and protesters would have been killed. This administration wants this.
YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it.: https://sh.itjust.works/post/39873361
Also, this:
Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/22/protest-trump-resistance-power
The media is already treating 4 burned waymos and a dozen police cruisers damaged in a small 5 block radius as the total collapse of order and society.
The media will keep brodcasting lies.
Same as they did during the Civil Rights Movement
Same as BLM in 2020
You are just learning that all these “violent looter riots” for the last 50 years actually were legitimate protests demonized by the corporate owned media.
Funny, the NPR and local news reports as well as the statements from our mayor and governor have emphasized the nonviolent and peaceful nature of the protests. They’ve noted that even the after-dark vandalism and misbehaving is less than a typical sports-championship crowd. Sure “FOX News” is screaming lies, but nobody is supposed to believe that, their own lawyers said so.
Which political party’s PACS does your mayor and governor receive funding from?
So, you know trump wants to declare martial law so he can do a military coup, starting with California, right? Do you see how violence would be problematic?
Oh no if we fight back he gets what he wants!
Guess we better just stand around and he’ll do it anyway but then we won’t have to grow a spine.
Are you going to videotape you doing this? I’d like to watch.
Yeah, I bet you love watching and jerking off to videos of police bashing people trying to protect their rights, families and communities.
What a fucking demon thing to say.
No, I’m saying he’s instigating violence, not that he’s going to partake. There is no fucking way that dude is showing up to a protest. I bet he’s not even from this country, like most of the other people calling for violence.
>SoftestSaphhic
>he
>that dude
Are you illiterate or are you an asshole?
Have fun screaming at your monitor while the adults change the world.
You still haven’t explained how you’re going to do that:
- Step one: Carry rifles and other guns openly to a protest where the soldiers/agents are itching to shoot you.
- Step two: ?
- Step three: Be dead or “change the world.” I guess it is changing your world.
Have fun screaming at your monitor while the adults change the world.
How did they work exactly?
Well BLM ended racism and the cops aren’t violent anymore. Oh and some of had not bloated budgets for a few months!
Pre-emptive strikes are apparently kosher now.
Yes, but still…. Protest Peacefully!
Civil disobedience. Disruption. That’s what gets the goods.
Anyone looting should be assumed to be a false flag Proud Boy/Oathkeeper
Because that’s how fascist regimes have been bright down in the past… right?
Um, yes?
Look im not anti-riot at all. I love a good riot. But we know for a fact they’ve been recruiting fascist militiamen to do this. And that will be the pretense for martial law.
So unless you wanna get swept up in some major bullshit, avoid the looters. Don’t trust them.
But I aint here to tell you what to do, its your life. Just the advice of a longtime anarchist activist.
Yeah actually lol
Truth. ✊🏼
Well if that’s the case, bring rifles. If it’s going to be violent and they won’t leave us a choice, go off.
So how does this work? Explain this to me. You bring a rifle to a protest and then a shitty ICE dude shoots you with a rubber bullet and then what? Does this end well for anyone.
Again:
YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it.: https://sh.itjust.works/post/39873361
No, the police tend to go hands-off when armed people show up to a protest. This is the real reason behind the second amendment, not the republican gun nut use of guns for fear and control.
They start shit and get violent when nobody has the power to hit back.
When they actually have the potential to trigger people shooting back with intent, they are far, far more careful.
They’re bullies. They’re scared when someone can hit back.
You forgot the /s
No, the police tend to go hands-off when armed people show up to a protest. This is the real reason behind the second amendment, not the republican gun nut use of guns as fear and control.
They start shit and get violent when nobody has the power to hit back.
When they actually have the potential to trigger people shooting back with intent, they are far, far more careful.
They’re bullies. They’re scared when someone can hit back.
That’s not sarcastic, though. Police are cowards. See: waiting outside a school building for hours while elementary children are being shot.
It’s a big reason why Malcom X is vilified in history class and we’re all told his protests were ineffective background noise, even though the civil rights movements would likely have failed without him. They prefer peaceful non-threatening protests that they can either ignore or decimate at will.
That’s not sarcastic, though. Police are cowards. See: waiting outside a school building for hours while elementary children are being shot.
Brown children were shot. They weren’t going to risk their lives for brown kids. In the protests, these are ICE dudes who want to kill brown people, that’s why they signed up.
Yeah I’m dismayed how much violence stoking I see in the comments. People need to stay safe, and throwing gasoline on a sparking outlet is not the way to do that
They’re vote brigading pretty hard in here as well. I don’t think Lemmy will fall for these tactics, but you never know. I archived this thread to show how blatant it is. This thread could be a case study.
Having fewer comments to sift through makes it much easier to self sort the crazy/obvious trolls, even when they make many accounts
Yeah, Lemmy is better that way. I have seen them post things that are similar enough to the comment they want to bury or use super long comments that don’t really say anything, that kind of mimics that from reddit. They’re pretty good at those kind of things. Most of them aren’t great at replying to direct questions or providing examples, they’ll either give crazy ass answers or just downvote the shit out of you. Occasionally, they’ll send in a really good one, but thankfully that’s somewhat rare.
Constitutional Carry is a thing in a lot of states…
Though somehow I think it might be different if the armed mob isn’t menacing a Planned Parenthood or something.
According to those maps, Los Angeles is definitely not one of them
There are protests all over the country tomorrow. Texas and Missouri have already deployed their State Guard troops.
If ICE shot you because they felt “unsafe,” no matter if it was legal for you to carry it or not, you’re still dead.
So if we’re going to be shot with or without a gun, why not practice self defense?
They are going to kill people, that’s inevitable at this point, you get that, right? We do need to be prepared to shoot back or shoot first if it means protecting people.
Duh.
It’s time to start killing for what we believe in. Let them fear us to bring lasting change. The dominoes have already fallen and we are in a state of civil war where only one side is choosing not to fight for fear of escalation and it’s leaving us trod underfoot. Death is the solution.
You want to talk about shady shit?
The fucking 50501 movement is funded by Isreal and controlled by Neoliberals.
The same money that prematurely ended the Covid lock downs because the BLM violent protests were making tangible change on police and election reform.
I appreciate the desire to be peaceful, but after how long of us sitting around getting shot at and imprisoned are you expecting a fascist oligarchy to give up and go home?
I don’t believe you.
If you’re going to make claims like that provide a source.
Israel often funds shit to cause problems for their government, as justification to attack, but I see no evidence of them funding 50501 in any way.
Source?
Who spoke at the protests you went to?
Every time i go out the protests are totally organized by local neoliberals that are funded by neoliberal PACs.
Obviously if you were going to try to control an originality grassroots movement then you wouldn’t show who gives money to the event organizers.
Dems have been playing the role of controlled opposition to Republicans my entire life. And considering the situation with David Hogg i don’t think they’re changing plans anytime soon.
State officials, survivors of school shootings (speaking for gun control, naturally), and immigrants fleeing war overseas. We also had a rock band whose name I didn’t catch.
When party leaders/elected officials speak at rallies, it’s proof that there’s a conspiracy?
That’s amazingly soft, living up to your handle there.
When only leaders from a specific political party are allowed to have control or speak then yes that’s a conspiracy.
I’m sorry, you’re asking for what now? Should we be inviting Kristi noem at the next rally? I’m thinking she might decline…
Or were you looking for someone libertarian?
This isn’t reddit, you’re going to have to do better than this. Upvotes/downvotes brigading doesn’t have the same effect here either.
Source?
On what?
“my source is that I made it the fuck up.”
Is this… Palestine?
It’s called the imperial boomerang.
Generally the occupation force will play coy during day, then escalate with violence after dark.
I am a bit surprised that this time around, they ate not waiting until dark. They are clearly baiting the peasants.
So, just go into it with violence in mind, then? What advice is this really giving? Shoot first, because they’re just going to lie about it anyway?
Fuck that.
Defend yourself if you have to, but telling people to use violence, just makes what they say about protesters, true. Don’t validate them.
Shoot first, because they’re just going to lie about it anyway?
No. Nobody said show up and open fire on every cop you see. Being the instigator will not help anyone.
Show up, present arms to demonstrate that you can and will defend yourself and your fellow protestors should the cops chose to escalate as they have repeatedly done in the past, and proceed to march peacefully until/unless you are attacked. Then, defend yourself as necessary, taking care to not cross the line from defence to aggressor.
Note, I’d recommend some form of body camera as you will almost certainly have to defend your use of force in court later.
I agree with you that nobody should participate in protests with the intention to engage in violence, however I think anyone who’s going to protest needs to be ready to defend themselves with violence.
Law enforcement won’t be the only threat you face.
Bringing my hard hat, my gas mask, with extra NATO cartages, an umbrella, a spray bottle with water, back up battery, and a 5 gallon bucket.
Be safe and happy cake day!
Thank you!
Oh! And my gun range ear muffs with high frequency dampening for when they use the sonic weapons.
When police shoot at unarmed protesters then the protesters need to show up armed.
Police are too afraid to shoot their rubber bullets and gas grenades at armed people, because of the implication that they may defend themselves.
I’m curious, has anyone collected data on that?
I mean thats how the Black Panthers operated, it was super successful, so much so that even the NRA helped pass gun laws over it.
