I want to get out of the country due to the risk of fascism, any ideas?

  • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world
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    Listen, if you’re not very rich and highly educated you might just have to do it the way other immigrants do it: with much uncertainty and perhaps even some illegality. Overstay your tourist visa, get married to a local, etc etc. What other option do you have without a master’s? It’s probably the better option regardless though, as America seems to be in the path of violent balkanization. At least you won’t have to fear for your life as an illegal immigrant somewhere else…

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    Migrating to other countries is extremely difficult. The “easiest” is probably getting a job in Europe that will help you get a work visa. If you want to actually become a citizen somewhere else, the easiest way is a country you can prove an ancestry from that counts that as a benefit, or be Jewish and go to Israel.

    If you have no connection to another country, you probably need an advanced degree (preferably in an in demand field), a significant savings account balance, and a job offer or proof that you could obtain one fairly quickly. Even then it’s not a guarantee. Somewhat ironically, the US is one of the easier places to migrate to.

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      If you have no connection to another country, you probably need an advanced degree (preferably in an in demand field), a significant savings account balance, and a job offer or proof that you could obtain one fairly quickly. Even then it’s not a guarantee.

      This is what kills me… I’m a worthless factory schmuck so I’m stuck in this shithole country :(

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        There are factories in Europe as well, apply and you have more of a chance than if you don’t.

        It’s also possible to attend higher education, or just visit for a prolonged time and try your hand at hospitality or anything really.

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        Dude I feel this SO much. My job is pretty far from skilled (I work in a warehouse) so I don’t really see too many places welcoming me with open arms due to my highly sought after qualifications

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      Somewhat ironically, the US is one of the easier places to migrate to.

      Yeah. That’s not actually true.

      The US is about the same as most developed countries, and I say that as someone who has (legally) worked in 6 different (developed/western countries) countries including the US (2 years there was enough, I didn’t pursue citizenship).

      The perception that the US is easy to legally immigrate to is a strawman.

      You guys do however have paths from illegal to legal that most don’t have - provided you don’t get caught first.

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          that was my first choice too, considering i currently live a two hour drive from the border. I also have recent ancestry there. although no living relatives

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            Trades in Canada get you a decent number of points in the immigration system for PR applications, especially depending on the province. If you’re fine with smaller cities, the prairies are pretty affordable and have easier immigration pathways, and reasonable (but not amazing) job opportunities.

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              East Coast is a good choice too, especially if OP is trying to get away from a hostile political environment. Alberta isn’t exactly much of a step up from the US right now.

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        Agree withthe other guy, sparkies are more in demand. There’s a million indian programmers trying to emigrate

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          We do need electricians here in Portugal, but I thought the challenge was with getting licensed. All the non-Portuguese electricians I know here work under the table.

          That said, if op cam get a remote programming job that allows them to work from Portugal (or can set up as a consultant and allow themselves to work from Portugal), they might have a way better time getting the D8 visa. Pay in Portugal is fairly low, but working for a US company as a remote consultant is (for now) a relatively easy way to meet the D8 income requirements (€3.5k per month income).

          Alternately, if you have a moderately sized investment account and a willingness to adjust your investments for that purpose, you can use that for D7.

          And as a third alternative, if you can get together enough money for a down payment on a house (or you already own one) you can use rental income for D7 (provided the rent is at least equivalent to €900 per month, regardless of expenses/mortgage).

          One thing I will say about moving to Portugal: if you’re moving to Lisbon or the Algarve, it will be hard and expensive. If you’re moving to anywhere in the interior (or probably anywhere else here) it will be much easier and less expensive. Where I live, housing, utilities, and every other expense category is cheaper than where I lived in the US. (caveat - I drive an electric car. Gas is more expensive here.) That won’t be the case in Lisbon or Faro, or even Porto.

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          The pay also depends if you work for yourself or someone else. You can make a decent living working for yourself, but if you work for someone else on this area, you’ll be exploited, and exploited a lot!