• x00z@lemmy.world
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    But then we Europeans would have a border with the USA.

    Not sure if I want that.

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      19 hours ago

      Perhaps a line comprised of the northernmost US states could form a separate country as a buffer zone.

      “The Union of Somewhat Less Barbaric States of Northern America” or something

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      21 hours ago

      You mean they’d elect someone to say that the European Atlantic Union should be a US state or else?

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    While we’re making crazy changes to the timeline, can I suggest one more? Let’s get Britain to finally depose the monarchy. With nowhere else to go, the House of Windsor flees to North America. We now refer to, “Charles, King of Canada.”

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    Life imitates art, and that art is the board game Twilight Struggle.

    (It’s a Cold War simulator, played on a world map, and Canada counts as Europe for game purposes.)

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    Our borders are sound, and we’re not at war.

    We have a land border with Denmark and a Sea border with France.

    Let’s go !

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      Was about to say that: Sea border wise you are closer to France than the British are.

      (Fun fact: Do you know which country has the longest land border to France? …it’s Brazil)

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    That would be so cool if I could visit Canada without any visa or other shit.

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      Or better yet, visit Canada and every other EU country with just one visa, instead of several dozen for each. Yeah, not every EU country is part of Schengen, and there are non-EU countries that are, but I always thought this is cool.

      My country does require a visa for EU entry despite being literally 14km away from one of its members, separated only by the Strait of Gibraltar, so I’m not really that lucky. But I least I wouldn’t have to go through the tedious visa application process all over again.

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      Most EU countries have visa-free entry into Canada IIRC. I know you have to submit an eta but those are cheap and quickly approved

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    Okay everyone, time to get started working on a Eurovision entry.

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      19 hours ago

      Send Faouzia please. She’s badass.

      I know everyone in the Eurovision fandom keeps telling me that Morocco should participate again and have her as the representative, but nah, I think Canada is the better choice (I am Moroccan).

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      I mean, arguably, conditions permitting, you don’t necessarily need to be an actual, full fledged member of anything to participate. But in any case, yes, please do, we need new blood.

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      Eurovision is organized by the european broadcasting union, not the european union.

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          As said, EBU, not EU. Israel is member of EBU, Canada is not. And joining EU makes no difference.

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            Canada is associate member of the EBU. Thing is you can only be a full member if your territory falls within the EBA, which isn’t even defined by the EBU but the ITU.

            There’s precendence for associate members to participate in the ESC, though, to wit, Australia, and if Canada were to become a EU member I bet they’d also be allowed in. I also very much doubt the organisers would deny Greenland entry.

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    The US offers sheer strength, but can no longer be counted on for security or reliability. The Canadian government is smart for examining their options.

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    Sehr interessant!

    I’m not sure how the EU charter works for geographic limits, but Canada would be a phenomenal addition to the market, especially since the US is about to blow up NAFTA and other trade agreements with Canada and Mexico.

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      If I’m not mistaken, per article 49 of the Treaty on European Union, it can’t.

      Any European State which respects the values referred to in Article 2 and is committed to promoting them may apply to become a member of the Union. The European Parliament and national Parliaments shall be notified of this application. The applicant State shall address its application to the Council, which shall act unanimously after consulting the Commission and after receiving the consent of the European Parliament, which shall act by a majority of its component members. The conditions of eligibility agreed upon by the European Council shall be taken into account.

      The conditions of admission and the adjustments to the Treaties on which the Union is founded, which such admission entails, shall be the subject of an agreement between the Member States and the applicant State. This agreement shall be submitted for ratification by all the contracting States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.

      For example, Morocco tried applying, but was rejected because it wasn’t considered an “European State”. So, from my point of view, either EU amends the article to allow non-European countries to join (maybe on the basis of cultural similarities? anyways, I don’t think it’s even feasible), or an special agreement/set of agreements to integrate it in the EU without actually making it part of the EU.

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          I’m pretty sure that the exact meaning of “European” is very precisely defined somewhere in the fine print. It’s an EU treaty after all.

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            I think originally it was meant to be focused on geographical Europe, they could use the "culturally European " reasoning as a loophole (or as the new meaning), though, but I don’t really know.

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            If Australia in in the Eurovision (European song contest), it may as well be in the Union too

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        Georgia is a EU candidate and it’s neither in Europe nor bordering a EU state. It should definitely be possible.

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          Georgia is absolutely within Europa by geographical, historically and politically. The eastern and southern reaches of the Caucasus mountains define the border towards Asia in that region.

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            What about Russia? I mean hypothetically, if they weren’t being utter cunts, of course. What makes Russia Russia is entirely in Europe, but the country is so stupidly big, 2/3 of its land is still in Asia.

            Similar question for Turkey. They have East Thrace in Europe, and around half of their biggest city, but almost everything that makes Turkey Turkey is in Asia. They’re arguably much more Asian than Russia but somehow they’d be considered for application if their government were to become civilised.

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              Russia absolutely would be a candidate if it ever will fullfill the requisites - the absolute majority of the population lives on the European side of the Ural anyway. In reality Russia always had the false “world power” idea so they never even considered it (and besides always weren’t even close to fullfill any criteria).

              Turkey was actually on it’s way towards becoming a candidate in the early 2000 years, but there was heavy resistance from some countries (mainly the conservatives/right wings in Germany and Austria), but they were also against the Baltics, the Eastern European states, etc. Which is now totally acceptable. It ended with Erdogan becoming what he is now. Today I see no chance that they will become a member within the next 30 years as the rules have tightened in some aspects.

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          Europe is not well defined, there are different opinions where Europe ends and Asia begins. Depending on the definition you choose, Georgia can be seen as partially or even completely in Europe.

          On the other hand, there is not much discussion that the Atlantic is the western border of Europe, so Canada is definitely not in Europe.

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            Perhaps we can consider them to be Eastern Greenland? What is Europe and what isn’t has always been a political question, not a geographical one

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    Finally an option that doesn’t involve “negotiating” with a dementia-ridden publicity whore. I’d vote YES!!!

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        As Canada is a country roughly the size of Poland it would seem to be beneficial to join the EU (pop. 441m) with a balance of right- and left-wing views. Better than being economically and culturally tied to the death-cult in the US.