• neatchee@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    I’m not entirely sure what about this you have a problem with?

    On its face, the statement seems reasonable.

    What am I missing?

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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      That’s exactly what Democrats did. They decided to not listen to a bunch of groups suggesting they do things like take a strong stance against Israel because they thought that’s not what the electoral majority wanted and they thought they would lose if they didn’t. It didn’t work out for them.

      Note, I am the opposite of one of those “Kamala lost because of Israel and it’s 100% here fault” people, I think there is lots of blame to go around, both from her and the Democrats, but also from people who told others not to vote for her because of Israel or people who just sat out the election. I even feel like I’m at fault for not doing more to get others to vote for her.

      But they still made a really stupid move because they thought it’s what the electoral majority wanted (i.e. continuing to slide rightward with their policies) rather than figure out that has not worked for them over and over.

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    The way I read this is there’s nuance in the messaging of (as one example) “Gender Affirming Surgery for All Who Want Them!” and “All People Deserve to Get the Care That it’s Determined They Need by a Medical Professional!”

    The first one is unpopular with the general population because it’s different and scary. Similar to the time before the Civil Rights Act was passed Civil Rights for black Americans was incredibly unpopular because the general populace is stupid. There are many messages like that, Pete Buttigieg’s “Medicare for All Who Want It” when he was running was the same thing. People are afraid if you tell them you’re taking away their insurance, but make it an option and an attractive one at that and you’ll get converts.

    Sometimes massaging the messaging to de-center positions that are “scary”, is better in the long run to get the people elected that can actually bring about the change. This isn’t about throwing any group under the bus.

  • Billiam@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Depending on who he means when he says “electoral majority” I don’t see a problem with what he said. It sounds to me like he’s agreeing with Hasan.

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        10 hours ago

        Oh, right. I’m tired and don’t use any microblogging platforms.

        So yeah. How are things?

        My own take on this is that Dems need to focus (not exclude anything specific) on the economy and the working class, that the correct way to strengthen the party and serve everyone’s needs is to focus on the class war. But they’re too cozy with billionaire donors for that to happen right now.