• MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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      If a cop rolled up on you, could you prove right then and there you are a citizen? Unless you habitually carry your passport or birth certificate or immigration papers, almost certainly not.

      Are you going to have any way to prove it while you are in a holding facility with no access to a lawyer or at best a public defender who has heard the same story 80 times today?

      This certainly wouldn’t be the first time an American Citizen got deported.

      Pedro Guzman

      Mark Daniel Lyttle

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        Unless you habitually carry your passport

        This would be a good time to remind everyone that you can actually get a passport card that will fit in your wallet:

        https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-passport/card.html

        The U.S. passport card is a wallet-sized, plastic passport that has no visa pages. The card is proof of U.S. citizenship and identity, and has the same length of validity as the passport book.

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        Yes, a lot of us can because our licenses provide that verification.

        Are licenses not like that in other states?

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          You don’t have to be a citizen to get a license in a lot of places. I actually don’t know of any that do but clearly I’m not fully informed.

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            I don’t think illegals can get a license here.
            Non-citizens have to provide documentation to convert their out-of-country license.

            Looks like anyone who has a “non-compliant” license is able to maintain it but new ones are no longer issued.

            Illegals are a significant form of labor in this red state but the state hates them.

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          I doubt that will work under Trump plan. Better not be brown and if you are carry that passport thing or something.

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            Why would Trump roll back anti-illegal license requirements? That’s kinda his thing.

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      Course not you put them in the US Justice System where corporations can then exploit their incarceration with free labor

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      When your non-citizen family members go … I’m losing a school kid next week. I think her mom is scared so she’s going home. Kid is non-verbal, non-ambulatory, super sweet and doing well at school. What will her life look like in Venezuela? Dad is staying, but he can’t work and take care of the kiddo.

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        Didn’t they understand that risk when they entered the country illegally? I mean I know they are in a desperate situation, but if I was fleeing to Canada and then I get kicked out because I’m there illegally what right do I have to complain?

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          Mom’s visa is about to expire. She doesn’t think they’ll renew it and she’s afraid to try.

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      I think what you mean to say is “deporting a citizen would be illegal.” It is certainly possible for police and presidents to do illegal things. Remember the broad immunity granted to presidents by SCOTUS?

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      They can and have.

      It’s resulted in lawsuits so we know it has. What’s really scary is what about the people who didn’t manage to phone home?