• Verdant Banana@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Harris is lucky to have Trump running

    without Trump the Democrat’s whole campaign platform would crumble

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      Yeah. I mean, after all… who would want to vote for someone to run a country who has spent their life practicing law /s

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      7 hours ago

      I mean, with Trump running the race is still basically a dead heat, so I’m not sure how lucky they really are.

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        We’re not unlucky because trump is running necessarily. We’re unlucky because half the fucking country doesn’t see what an insane and horrific choice he is.

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          I’m really scared for future elections when the GOP has a candidate that is actually charismatic or articulate…

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            They’re kinda proving that those are unnecessary, though. They’re in uncanny valley and espousing literal Nazi ideology and still getting elected. At that point, why even buy lipstick for the pig in the first place? Their dog whistles have been packed up in boxes in the attic for years. Echo chambers that blame scapegoats, vilify opponents, and deify their candidates are all that is really necessary. They can literally get away with saying “well, Hitler had some good ideas too, though…” and the base will lap it up and show up to cast their ballots.

            Charisma and articulation are off-putting to their uncharismatic and inarticulate voters anyway. That might actually do more harm than good. Because “talking good is gay” or something. It’s dumb but it’s how they feel, and their feelings don’t give a fuck about facts.

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          I think they do see it. They just think that’s a good thing.

          Enough people think competence is ‘controlling’ and education is ‘pretentious’ that they want pathetic, stupid, harmful bullshit.

          The purpose of the system is what it does, and the purpose of an ideology that discriminates is the people it chooses to harm, and the ways it finds to harm them.

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        She’s running against arguably the worst candidate in American history and it’s still a dead heat, what does that tell you?

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          He might be the best candidate for hateful idiots though. The guy’s a chud whisperer. I’m not sure if any smarter more articulate Republican could hold together the same radical coalition.

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          Harris must be a nasty woman like Hillary Clinton. It can’t be because the other side has been propagandized until it went nuts.

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              I’m guessing they were being sarcastic. Unfortunately a lot of people have yet to realize sarcasm is anything but obvious online, at least not in this day and age.

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                I think I understood their sarcasm. They think I’m engaging in misogynistic tendencies and do actually think Trump voters are “nuts”.

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                  For the record, I don’t know if you personally judge Harris as a woman. I have no reason to think that’s true, and I don’t know if you hate Hillary, let alone your reason if you do.

                  But I think a lot of the hate for Hillary was misogynist, and many people made the argument that if Trump is awful, Hillary must have been worse to lose.

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                    I think I understood the first paragraph before your comment but thank you for the clarification. And I do generally agree with your second paragraph as well. I do think it’s a bit reductive and is often used to draw attention from the more substantial reasons.

                    Also deciding people are nuts is a great way to alienate and isolate them which will only entrench those ideas and can further radicalize them.

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        The alternative, if the republicans had a candidate that wasn’t a weird 80 year old billionaire, the democrats wouldn’t have a shot in hell, facilitating a genocide while endorsing 90% of republican policies from 2016 and promising what amounts to fuckall help to most people.

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      Oh yea! Because campaign platforms totally aren’t built around their opponent and don’t ever change and for sure aren’t strategic or anything!

      Nothin but a lil troll account.

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      Are downvoters disagreeing even though the biggest slogan to come out of the DNC was “we are not going back” (plus the point of the stunt this article is about)? Or do they think any criticism whatsoever of democrats is bad? This shouldn’t be a controversial take.

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        Because 1) it’s the usual “I’m totally a leftist that hates Trump yet will always blame the Dems for everything for some completely mysterious and unknown reason” bullshit, and 2) it’s a goddamn stupid take. Of course running an anti-Trump campaign wouldn’t work against anyone but Trump. Harris’ campaign strategy (which is a continuation of Biden’s) is to singularly point out the threat Trump represents, not to paint the entire GOP as a threat. And as much as it might piss off actual progressives (people who are going to vote Dem anyway because they understand what’s at stake, unlike, you know, the poster you replied to) they’re trying to reach Republican voters who don’t want Trump but need to be reminded it’s okay to vote for the other party if they have better candidates.

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          1. As a leftist that totally hates Trump, I am voting for Harris because it’s not strategic for me to do otherwise. I still have the ability to recognize that the dems are doing their damndest to uphold a broken status quo that is actively harming everyone, especially children in Palestine.

          2. Why shouldn’t they paint the entire GOP as a threat when they are the party America’s Hitler? The reason we have Trump in the first place is because the DNC wanted a bogeyman to get Hilary in in 2016, quickly found source from 2016. They shouldn’t be trying to court Republicans, they should be trying to motivate people with real progress. The reason Hilary lost was because people are sick of establishment politicians and she was the embodiment of that establishment.

          People are sick and tired of having 2 bad choices and nothing else.

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          The criticism is that a large portion of voters wouldn’t support her if she wasn’t running against someone like Trump. I know that criticism has at least some substance because it applies to me.

          Edit: more specifically her campaign is using Trump as a bogeyman more than she’s running on actual policy.