A BBC investigation reveals that Microsoft is permanently banning Palestinians in the U.S. and other countries who use Skype to call relatives in Gaza.

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    That’s what you get for trusting Microsoft with anything…or Google…or Apple…or Facebook… stop tying your communication to these companies, they can pull the rug at any time.

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      You have to trust someone with these communications, there is no free communication beyond face to face

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        Matrix (federated) or Briar (multi-modal P2P) are both good options for getting rid of dependency on central organizations.

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        Unless you build your own, you have to trust your ISP to move packets, but you don’t have to rely on any third party services or give them your personal info to use social media.

        Fully decentralized, open-source, and encrypted social networks exist. The only servers needed are your computer and the computers of the friends you communicate with. (See: Retroshare )

        They’re just never going to get big because small, personal friend-to-friend networks can’t compete with the network effects of centralized media and a never-ending torrent of dopamine on tap.

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          How do you call a landline number in a war zone through a matrix server?

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            I was simply responding to the comment:

            You have to trust someone with these communications, there is no free communication beyond face to face

            the oh-so-clever smart alecks saying “whaddabout ISPs???” forgot about 2-way radio and meshnets

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        Not true at all lol, have you heard of peer-to-peer?

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              You can have more than one dumb pipe to push bits through, but if the ISP can read your network traffic then you have bigger problems than a single-point-of-failure.

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              For the most part the ISP doesn’t have a way to know you are using VoIP to contact people in a particular country (unless you are using a VoIP service owned by the ISP of course).

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            Threema is what signal should have been.

            But I ain’t got in me to start forcing people again lol

            Signal it is until it is proven untrustworthy

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              Yeah, they’re both good (still).

              features Threema Signal
              price $5 / 5€ Free
              account creation phone number optional phone number required
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            They didn’t fuck up, they made a design choice about the scope of the app. Are they also fucking up by not blurring the messages on screen? After all someone could be looking over your shoulder without you realizing it. Maybe Signal should ship with spyglasses.

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              You’re absolutely right and it’s insane I keep coming across these wild takes from people that clearly don’t understand technology

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              I’m not sure why you think anyone would want a messenger that touts itself for its encryption to not encrypt things.

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                  Then it’s weird they are fixing it now. Why aren’t they insisting this doesn’t need to be dealt with because it was a feature, not a bug?

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                    It’s weird that apps sometimes change scope and add features that users want? Ones that contributers already did most of the work for?

                    Why aren’t they insisting this doesn’t need to be dealt with because it was a feature, not a bug?

                    That was literally what they have been saying this whole fucking time.

                    “The database key was never intended to be a secret. At-rest encryption is not something that Signal Desktop is currently trying to provide or has ever claimed to provide,” responded the Signal employee.

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                    It’s really fucking annoying how relentlessly you pick fights with people these days. Wish you’d chill out dude.

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              That wouldn’t shock me, but he was right that Signal was not addressing a known vulnerability. In fact, denying that it even was a vulnerability.

              For what it’s worth, I trust Telegram even less than Signal. And at least Signal seems to be finally doing something about the problem.

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            Damn that’s bad, and Signal’s response was even worse. They knew about it in 2018, for 6 years.

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              I always felt like signal is there more to satisfy a niche so people feel like their whatsapp is good enough.

              Leadership makes some odd chocies IMHO

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        You can run your own infrastructure.

        Matrix has been recommended, but you can run your own Synapse server and federate with other servers.

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      Yor right I will just use my billions of dollars to build a global internet infrastructure and make my posts on my own phone using the os I just built in my spare time for fun its not about trust its about necessity

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      That’s what you get

      You’re right, they deserve this. You asshole.

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      We had an issue a couple days ago where we couldn’t move a VIP to a new phone because the vendor wanted us to perform multi-factor auth via a device from two years ago. We had to roll back the service. Our entire lives are built atop fragile digital infrastructure with broken and poorly thought-out policies.