• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I’ve been saying that for a while. Not only does this open up many trans women to additional harassment, it also opens it up to any cis woman someone decides looks too masculine to be a “real” woman.

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      5 months ago

      Let’s cut to the chase.

      This bill, and many like it, are created with a clear purpose: to subjugate women. Harming the LGBTQ2+ community is almost secondary, since they can do that just fine already.

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        5 months ago

        Just curious; why did you put a 2 in LGBTQ+? I’ve just never seen that before and wonder what it means? Does it capture the IA?

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              5 months ago

              No problem. It’s a more common term in Canada, so I’ve been seeing it since I was in high school which was like 15 years ago. In my head the “long” LGBT string has always been 2SLGBTQIA+ but I realize the “2S” part isn’t as well known.

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                5 months ago

                Ahhh, that makes sense. I’m from America and have seen it evolve from LGB > LGBT > LGBTQ > LGBTQI+. I’m unsure of how well your natives are represented in Canada, but the way we treat them here speaks as to why I’ve never heard the term. They are practically 2nd class citizens according to our government.

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              5 months ago

              You are unlikely to if you aren’t in Canada. It seems like Indigenous folk down in the States don’t have quite as much success spreading widespread awareness. I produced some stuff and had to explain to a bunch of Americans what a land acknowledgement was. For the past 5 years where I am they are performed before any meeting or performance. Up here 2S gets top billing at the beginning of the LGBTQIA initnialism to give deference to gender categories that were suppressed by European supremacist colonization.

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                5 months ago

                People in the US do land acknowledgments. I don’t think the indigenous really care one way or another. It’s still stolen land, an acknowledgment isn’t giving it back.

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                5 months ago

                I’m in Minnesota, we do land acknowledgements here, and the longer initialism I often see is LGBTQIA2S+, but I’ve never seen the 2S getting the top billing. That said, I think I can speak for all (reasonable) Minnesotans when I say that we’re willing to do that when we become Canada’s newest province.

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          5 months ago

          2 is for 2-spirit; I’ve seen both 2 and 2S, but either way it refers to Indigenous 3rd-gender folks.