A legislator with the far-right Alternative for Germany party was arrested on Monday on charges including displaying forbidden totalitarian symbols, with neighbours of his fraternity complaining of often hearing the Nazi "Sieg Heil" victory salute.
Much of this is semantics but if you look at the legal texts Germany doesn’t have free speech (freie Rede) but freedom of opinion (Meinungsfreiheit). There’s a lot of restrictions that don’t exist under usual free speech legislations (insult, incitement, etc), but also protections that don’t exist elsewhere, like true statement of fact being a water-tight defence against accusations of libel.
Try denying the Holocaust in Canada or Germany, versus say the U.S.
I live in Canada and I prefer our regulated form of free speech, but it’s not US free speech.
And if you weren’t so enraged by thinking I’m an american saying that the US is the only land of the free speech, you would have seen that I was making the dudes, and Germany’s point. He’s asking to bring those laws here, but they already exists. Just not in the US
You can be pedantic and argue semantics, we all know what kind of free speech we are talking about here.
Your freedom stops at the exact moment, it limits other people’s freedom. There may be exceptions, e.g. talking shit about someone vs. talking about facts. Freedom isn’t unlimited and shouldn’t be. If you think otherwise, where do we stop? Why is my freedom to randomly murder other people not granted by the state and why do I get in prison for doing it? I have the freedom to do as I please and no-one should stop me!
You mean mostly in the US? Canada does not have free speech, and anything inciting is illegal.
Canada does have free speech. Intolerance isn’t free speech. Fascism isn’t free speech. It’s a threat to free speech.
Canada has free speech, just like Germany, the US or many other countries.
Free speech does not mean you cannot ever be punished for anything you say. There is no country in the world where this would be the case.
Much of this is semantics but if you look at the legal texts Germany doesn’t have free speech (freie Rede) but freedom of opinion (Meinungsfreiheit). There’s a lot of restrictions that don’t exist under usual free speech legislations (insult, incitement, etc), but also protections that don’t exist elsewhere, like true statement of fact being a water-tight defence against accusations of libel.
Try denying the Holocaust in Canada or Germany, versus say the U.S.
I live in Canada and I prefer our regulated form of free speech, but it’s not US free speech.
And if you weren’t so enraged by thinking I’m an american saying that the US is the only land of the free speech, you would have seen that I was making the dudes, and Germany’s point. He’s asking to bring those laws here, but they already exists. Just not in the US
You can be pedantic and argue semantics, we all know what kind of free speech we are talking about here.
Your freedom stops at the exact moment, it limits other people’s freedom. There may be exceptions, e.g. talking shit about someone vs. talking about facts. Freedom isn’t unlimited and shouldn’t be. If you think otherwise, where do we stop? Why is my freedom to randomly murder other people not granted by the state and why do I get in prison for doing it? I have the freedom to do as I please and no-one should stop me!
You’re being dumb. I didn’t invent the US’ definition of free speech. Go argue with them.
And you’re onto freedom of murder there, I think you’re a little lost.
In the US you can’t say certain things about your president. There is no complete and absolute free speech anywhere.