Veeeeeeery interesting! I haven’t kept up on Warframe, but this looks to me like a big nod to Dark Sector, the studio’s first attempt at a “Warframe” style game that ended up getting scoped down into a weird single-player game. But, most of the design language and ideas of Warframe came from Dark Sector first. I wonder if this is them finally making some explicit in-universe connections to the two games, as opposed to spiritual nods and references?

Oh, and anyone who hasn’t seen it, NoClip’s documentary series on Warframe is a great watch, even if you have no interest in the game itself: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-THgg8QnvU7Weo1mCM9H2AXljC7UrDm8

That’s right, they cancelled The Peripheral but we’re getting more Upload.

Pretty sure Upload filmed quite some time ago, it was probably better calculus to just finish editing and SFX work and release it, vs Peripheral being to early in production and delayed indefinitely by the strikes.

I mean, I’d rather have both, but I can see the potential logic.

Per Wikipedia:

According to reports at the time of the production and interviews with some members of the cast and crew, the original version of the movie had a disastrous test screening, so producer Ronald Shusett was brought in to re-shoot around 40% of the movie and add more character scenes and humor. Emilio Estevez also mentioned how director Geoff Murphy let them down by focusing too much on action in his original cut of the film. Geoff Murphy claims that there was interference from production company Morgan Creek and that he asked for his possessory credit to be removed.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freejack#Production

I always liked it as a kid, but yeah, it’s clearly a movie that had a lot of trouble and the results speak for themselves. It’s a neat idea, at least.

My thoughts exactly. What am I supposed to do now, read the books?

(I may, tv’s just so much easier than finding time to read, lol)

You know, I’m pretty sure that I watched this movie, forgot all about it, watched it a second time, turned to my wife halfway through and asked, “Have we seen this before?”, and we eventually decided we had, but finished watching it again anyway.

And right now, I can’t tell you a GD thing about it other than Clive Owen was in it.

Huh. I was watching that one when it aired, and I didn’t even notice, due to the mostly episodic nature of it. Not surprised, given Fox’s history (Browncoats will never forgive and never forget), but somehow it snuck by me.

Way more upset it didn’t get renewed. I’m a bit of an Urban fanboy and was really enjoying the show.

…guess I’ll go watch Doom again.

I ran Gentoo for years. I run Arch now.

You’re not wrong, lol.

'Course, I was running Gentoo when hardware was slow enough that you could see the real-time performance improvement from tailored compiles. Now shit’s so fast that any gains are imperceptible by a human for day-to-day desktop usage. Arch can also be a bit of a time sink, I get it, especially setting it up takes time and thought. That’s also why I like it, and always come back to it: I can set it up exactly how I want it, and it’s really good at that. There’s always weird shit that seems to happen to me when I try to remove Gnome in Ubuntu or other crazy shit that, yeah, everyone would tell you not to do, but Arch doesn’t care. If I want combination of things, I can hunt for a distro that has it, or I can likely just set it up on Arch.

After setup, though, it’s not any more effort to maintain than any other distro. shrug

I have nothing to add buy my upvote. It’s not the traditional cyberpunk aesthetic, but it’s absolutely cyberpunk themes.

I largely agree with this. It’s a shame that S2 ended on a cliffhanger where they were finally getting into the sci-fi questions.

Light Spoilers, though they may make the show more interesting if you’re on the fence:

That’s all from memory, so I may have mucked up a detail or two, but by the end I was really interested to see where it was all going. The show could be really smart when it wanted to, which is why it’s a shame that it mostly wants to meander through a slow-paced will-they-won’t-they for two seasons instead of getting into the meat of things. Maybe they felt they had to make it more “accessible” and sneak the cyberpunk in?

I dunno.

It was greenlit for a third season, and recent news reports indicate it was still coming (all prior to the current strikes), so maybe we’ll get a conclusion? I’ll certainly watch it when it drops.

People have been arguing about the definition of “Cyberpunk” pretty much from the moment the term was coined. I think, for the vast majority of people, it seems they focus on the aesthetic more than anything else: neon lights, megatowers, rain, tech, crime, etc.

Personally, I like to see some hints of the “punk” half of the phrase shining through. Rebels and misfits, either by choice or by circumstance, using technology to fight oppressive systems enabled by technology. Neuromancer remains the measuring stick that I’ve always used, but I’m not going to turn my nose up on a good story if it’s only “cyberpunk adjacent”.

High tech, low life, as Bruce Sterling put it (apocryphally). And, that works well enough most of the time.

So, given the above, as an example, no, I wouldn’t call The Fifth Element cyberpunk. It has lots of aesthetic similarities, but very little “punk”: the heroes are working with the governments to preserve the status quo after all, but I still love it, as it’s a damn great film.

Legit, the only character I could beat the last boss with back in the day. She’s too short for the boss to hit when you’re point blank, so you get these awesome matches with the final boss constantly backing away from a tiny chicken.

Form and function are inextricably linked: one will inform the other. A lot of the ergo-split community focuses on the use case where you move your hands as little as possible, and the designs tend to revolve around maximizing that ideal. And they are damn good at it. The drawback, as you note, is that it’s a design that expects you not to move your hands around: it encourages keyboard navigation and shortcuts in place of using the mouse as much as possible.

That said, you can get around it. You can use layers to move common shortcuts to the left hand, so you don’t have to do the whole “Stretch my hand across two units” dance. Or, you can look into something like a macro pad.

Me, I just deal. The comfort when typing is well worth the tradeoff, to me. I’ll favor avoiding the mouse when possible, and just dance my one hand across both halves when needed. It’s not a huge deal to me, but the whole point is personalization: find what works best for you!

Not 20 years old, but if you’re willing to look at 10, I’ll always shout out the often-overlooked Remember Me by DONTNOD, back before they did Life is Strange.

It’s a 3rd person action-adventure game set in a cyberpunk future where everyone has a cybernetic implant called the SenSen in their brain to allow all their memories to be uploaded into cloud, so they can revisit them whenever they want. Of course, this technology is the property of one corporation, Memorize, but I’m sure they wouldn’t do anything evil with the ability to read and store every memory of every person connected to the system, right? You play as Nilin, a former memory hacker with some bad amnesia, who is broken out of prison by unknown benefactors with their own agenda. Navigate the streets and slums of 2084 Paris, avoiding hit squads and breaking into memories to piece together your own fractured past.

Definitely a solid B-tier game, it didn’t blow anyone’s mind on release, but it’s decently fun to play, has an interesting story, and the atmosphere of the cyberpunk city is just perfect. Plus, it gets pretty damn cheap come sale times. I can’t recommend it enough for anyone with a love of cyberpunk and mid-tier games with heart making up for the lack of budget.

6.2lbs. So you’re saying they’re easy to toss in a dumpster…

Not listed as being in my city yet, but seems prudent to keep dark sunglasses with me going forward.

Lots of good takes here, my two pennies: The one thing that’s always held me back from labeling it “cyberpunk” is actually the lack of corporate control. It’s definitely a sci-fi dystopia with a lot of visual and thematic elements that align well with the biggest examples of Cyberpunk, but instead of corporations being the power in charge, it seems (from the information I recall in the two films) that it’s just the government itself has become overbearingly authoritarian.

But I’m not going to argue all that hard with anyone that disagrees. It’s definitely hanging out at the same parties.