Controversial influencer Andrew Tate and his brother deny allegations of rape and human trafficking.
  • monsterlynn@kbin.social
    1472·
    8 months ago

    But I thought Romania was the perfectly corrupt place for a genius alpha like Tate to operate his “business” without any hassel.

    • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      13010·
      8 months ago

      I know you’re being sarcastic, but I just find it so hilarious that while Romania may in fact be corrupt, this small-dick-energy idiot somehow managed to make himself the whipping boy with whom Romania will demonstrate to the world how not corrupt they are.

      I will giddily await him having his front teeth extracted in make-me-your-bitch prison.

      • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        681·
        8 months ago

        I hope he’s treated well in prison. Especially if courts determine it’s best for society if he spends a lifetime there.

        Just realized a part of that is for the workers there. If I were a guard I’d feel best about my job knowing it’s the most ethical prison it can be. If prison rape (if that’s what you were getting at) isn’t the sentence, then it shouldn’t happen. (If it’s the sentence, oh my.)

        • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          56·
          8 months ago

          You’re absolutely right, and deep down I do agree that the civility with which we treat prisoners is the measure of society. Some countries more than others tend to engage in “revenge based” justice and its just yuck.

          I got a bit carried away with my comment because lately my justice boner just keeps getting deferred or held over. It’s been a long time.

            • Nythos@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              91·
              8 months ago

              Since the Reddit exodus barring Hexbear and lemmy.ml which I blocked the moment I was able to, all I’ve seen on here is genuine discussion and healthy disagreement. It’s a nice change of pace compared to the rest of the internet.

          • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
            16·
            8 months ago

            We all benefit from a society with a higher floor for suffering. We all benefit from a society that doesn’t see hurting people unnecessarily as justice.

            I am not a prisoner, I hope to never be one, but if I find myself forced to violate laws to sate my conscience I hope I am treated as kindly as possible, so for that to happen I must demand we treat even the absolute dregs of society as fellow human beings who can reform and don’t deserve unnecessary suffering.

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          8 months ago

          Yeah, I support humane punishment even for him. I oppose prisons, even for him. But I also will be pissed if he’s treated especially well or cruelly.

      • Croquette@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        5·
        8 months ago

        Imagine being a corrupt system trying to project legitimacy, and that shit stain of a human comes in and admit federal crimes and being a dick all around.

        This is a slam dunk to use Tate as a way to project a working system even though it is probably not.

  • breadsmasher@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1001·
    8 months ago

    Wheres all his defenders now? I thought tate was absolutely innocent and would not be charged blahnlahblah

    • Riccosuave@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1272·
      8 months ago

      Wheres all his defenders now?

      Screaming the n-word into the voice chat of their Call of Duty lobbies, while eating pizza rolls, and watching Adin Ross on Kick.

        • Riccosuave@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          8 months ago

          I’m sorry m8. I like pizza rolls from time to time too. I share in your pain and shame. We must revitalize their image!

            • TheFriar@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              8 months ago

              lol monster factory I think is their finest work…although ep. 50 through roughly 400 are peak podcasting. When I was first listening to mbmbam I was on the subway and in airports crying with laughter. The newer ones I’ve put on haven’t really grabbed me that way. Back in like 2016, I could NOT stop listening.

              It’s like the early to mid mbmbam, early to mid Harmontown, and the first two seasons of My dad wrote a porno. The most amazing podcasts ever invented.

    • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      25·
      8 months ago

      Oh man I’ll never forget the plane trip I took where I was sitting next to a young couple and the girl was showing the guy Andrew Tate videos and telling him to be more like Tate. “You know how you’re always complaining like a bitch? Well watch this…” and then she played a video of Andrew Tate talking about how real men are stoic because no one wants to hear about their damn feelings. I was really hurting for this guy but he calmly told her she was an idiot and said Andrew Tate could fuck off.

    • OlPatchy2Eyes@slrpnk.netEnglish
      7·
      8 months ago

      Haven’t seen many tate defenders on the fediverse. Am I misunderstanding you?

      Edit: lemmy -> fediverse

    • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      8 months ago

      Oh they think they’re cleared and this isn’t happening. Not joking. People at my work say this shit

    • antidote101@lemmy.worldEnglish
      57·
      8 months ago

      They went to Romania because of it’s excellent legal system right? No wait, they went there because they thought it was a highly corrupt system in which they could pay their way out of their crimes.

      …and now they’re going to get prosecuted because they’re a highly visible case.

        • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          8·
          8 months ago

          EU countries are good place to escape if you’re expecting a death sentence or “inhuman” jail conditions (ie. torture, rat cell, etc). Otherwise it’s useless

      • AutistoMephisto@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        8 months ago

        It’s only highly visible because he bragged about paying cops hush money. What Tate failed to realize is that hush money applies to both parties. The party accepting the bribe, and the party offering the bribe.

        • Mirshe@lemmy.worldEnglish
          14·
          8 months ago

          Not just that, but he also publicly bragged about how lax Romania’s laws and how they don’t care about rape during an administration that is attempting, at least on the surface, to change public perception of themselves worldwide from the corrupt governments of the 90s and 2000s.

  • SmurfNuts@kbin.social
    602·
    8 months ago

    Good. Fuck these scumbags. Maybe some of his shit for brains followers will snap out of it after this. One can only hope.

  • Shou@lemmy.worldEnglish
    532·
    8 months ago

    Hope he suffers for all the negative influence he’s had.

            • DragonTypeWyvernEnglish
              172·
              8 months ago

              The not-shitheads of the world really need to start organizing these things, instead of relying on kind strangers keeping their notes.

              • moup@lemm.eeEnglish
                351·
                8 months ago

                Meh. See how they didn’t reply back? They are arguing in bad faith, they don’t want/care about citations

                they just want you to either waste your time (so they can ignore you) or say something like “you can google it yourself” so they can say “see, you got nothing”

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              71·
              8 months ago

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            • shimdidly@lemmy.worldEnglish
              166·
              8 months ago

              I only saw admissions about what is already publicly known. Yes he hired women and did pornography. This is morally wrong and destructive to society.

              The rape and trafficking charges are hoaxes because Tate is a prominent figure against the establishment.

              Bill Gates is on the Epstein list and his wife left him over the issue yet… No investigation.

              To quote George Carlin, “Its a big club, and you ain’t in it.” Not only am I completely confident he did nothing wrong. They would have buried him under the prison if they had any real dirt. I also know it is political persecution.

              • orrk@lemmy.worldEnglish
                36·
                8 months ago

                damn, we get a twofer!

                1. he diden’t do it
                2. it was fine because other people do bad stuff

                sounds like every other denier of stuff they know to be true

              • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                23·
                8 months ago

                The literal first link that other persons shared opens with Tate saying:

                “I’ve committed federal crimes, can you get me no jail time”

                This is paraphrased of him discussing looking for lawyers.

                You can’t get a better source than the horse my guy.

                So what are your thoughts now?

                I’m not trying to shame you here. Just help you find a better role model.

                • shimdidly@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  138·
                  8 months ago

                  role model

                  One can recognize an obvious political persecution regardless whether or not they like a person.

          • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.eeEnglish
            7·
            8 months ago

            Citation needed.

            I’ll take your silence after the citations were posted to be an admission that you were 100% wrong about this

    • Hadriscus@lemm.eeEnglish
      121·
      8 months ago

      Not too bad we’re attending a beach football tournament of companies. Our friends did not qualify so we’ll be out early. But ! that means lunch at the beach, heheh.

    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldEnglish
      91·
      8 months ago

      Pretty good. There is a restaurant close to where I live that has got a lot of hype about, took the family there yesterday. It was worth it. Also one of my children has a recital.

    • ReallyZen@lemmy.mlEnglish
      61·
      8 months ago

      Good, good. The flight was a bit bumpy today, but by 11am I was having breakfast at my favorite little place down in front of the mosque. I love the quiet Sunday mornings here.

  • wick@lemm.eeEnglish
    9·
    8 months ago

    The case had been discussed for months in a process before a preliminary chamber where the accused could challenge the evidence of the prosecutors.

    On Friday, the court in Bucharest said the case met the legal criteria and would proceed.

    So what’s the difference between this and a conviction?

    • pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.onlineEnglish
      12·
      8 months ago

      It’s kinda like a grand jury where they decide if there’s enough evidence to proceed with the trial, but without the jury. It’s what a lot of places have moved to from the grand jury.

    • TheFonz@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      8 months ago

      This is an indictment I think. It just indicates that the trial can proceed if my understanding is correct.