• Arrests without warrants, brutality
• Teargassing and pepper-spraying journalists, citizens, etc.
• Violating direct court orders
• So much more!!!

Dick Cheney lied about walking so that JD Vance could lie about running.

I don’t think you’re wrong to want to be able to independently verify our reasoning. I think that’s part of the reason it took us so long to ban HC, as they used a absurdity, jokes, and ‘randomness’ to foster a fascist base. I feel it’s not difficult to see if you know what to look for, but the strategy works because it’s not completely obvious. Those who call them out are more easily cast as humorless shrills, and people are more likely to view things from the stereotypical frame of power-tripping gatekeepers over-reacting to a joke, which is what it looks like on the surface to the uninitiated.

The conceit of HC is that it’s a ‘free speech’ zone, and that anyone can say anything, including things that happen to be fascist or support fascism. That’s not the case. Alice is the admin, this is her censoring criticism of Charlie Kirk’s deification documented in PTB. She enables her moderators to be just as censorious when it comes to pushing a right-agenda.

It’s worth reading up on the strategy of absurdity, particularly in regard to the banned Reddit community Frenworld. This is a community whose bread and butter was thinly veiled anti-semitic jokes and holocaust denial wrapped in cutesy images of frogs and clowns speaking in childish slang.

When contacted by this reporter recently and asked to comment on the content, shortly before the banning of their community, founders and moderators of /r/frenworld denied that the subreddit was linked to the right wing at all, let alone the far right, and said its content was harmless.

The impulse to give the benefit of doubt is a good one, to not ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity, but ultimately if nazis are at home on your platform, the end result is the same regardless of intention.

This is not the totality of the evidence, but I feel like it’s enough to demonstrate why we came to this conclusion.

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I came to SLRPNK.net from Beehaw.org, and while I think they do a lot of things right, I don’t think disabling downvotes is one of them.

While Beehaw members can’t downvote comments and posts on other platforms, visitors to Beehaw are able to downvote posts and comments on Beehaw and made by Beehaw members. While people on Beehaw can’t see these downvotes, they are visible to people off-Beehaw all the same.

I think downvotes are a useful way of getting a temperature reading on a comment. With it gone, it puts more stress on other methods of responding to bad comments, those being reporting comments to the moderators, and replying to the comment with a statement of disagreement or rebuttal. Both methods of reply are moderator-intensive; moderators need to reply to reports in a timely fashion, and contradictory replies often devolve into slap-fights, which also require moderator attention. A social media experience is judged by its signal to noise ratio, so removing or dampening uninformative or irrelevant dross helps the gems to stand out. Moderation is key, and moderators are the weak point in any social media design. Good ones are difficult to find, moderator skills are difficult to teach, and it is an easy task to burn out on.

Beehaw does a good job of seeking out moderators and limiting their community list to keep the moderation task more manageable. Even with those in place, the moderation task is too great to keep up with the demands of federating with a site like Lemmy.world, which lead to them defederating from the largest instance early in their existence. I haven’t kept up with their internal discussion in a while, but I get the sense that it is still a constant struggle.

Allowing members to downvote takes some of the work off of moderators. Judging quality in posts is a difficult task, and downvotes can provide useful information. Downvoting permits a more nuanced access to the wisdom of crowds. Sometimes the best response to a comment is to downvote and move on. Even in cases where an obvious rule-breaking content is eventually removed, like in the case of a racist comment, downvotes provide not only censure to the commentor, but solidarity with the people and groups targeted by their attack during the interim before moderator action.

Downvotes can be abused, and can communicate confusing information, like when a locally-upvoted post is torpedoed by downvotes primarily from a single foreign instance. I think giving moderators access to granular voting information in their communities was the right choice for Lemmy, and I think giving public access to statistical breakdowns of vote origin in comments and posts that reach a threshold of votes could be useful as well. I think even without technical improvements to mitigate these drawbacks, removing downvotes causes more problems than it solves.

Beehaw’s world news is a great source of general world politics. There are also regional instances with their own political communities that can give you a local perspective on world events, like

• !uk_politics@feddit.uk
• !europepolitics@feddit.org
• !australianpolitics@aussie.zone
• !canadapolitics@lemmy.ca

Thanks, fixed!

Thank you for your quick action. I’ve updated the comment.

Thanks for starting this discussion. I’ve linked this post in !meta@slrpnk.net.

We’ve compiled an informal and incomplete list of servers we federate with who also federate with maga.place. Federation by default is considered best practice, so none of these admins have intentionally endorsed a fascist instance. I hope this post and the linked threads are informative in making your own decisions.

• Discuss.tchncs.de – @Milan@discuss.tchncs.de @erAck@discuss.tchncs.de
• Lemmy.vg – @nume@lemmy.vg @admin@lemmy.vg
• Lemy.lol – @iso@lemy.lol @QuazarOmega@lemy.lol

Respect to @sunshine@lemmy.ca and @kersploosh@sh.itjust.works for taking initiative and leading discussions and votes on defederation.

Day 30: by cleverly posting primarily in !fuck_AI, the humans believe I am one of them. Passing this Lemmy-based turning test proves the value of LLMs. The secret to mass LLM acceptance is to flood social media with critical statements about AI and helpful summaries of bad AI press, all generated by a Large Language Model.

Boiling the oceans was worth it all along ;emdash; fuck_FISH!

Monoculture is a terrible idea, even in a robotic vertical farm with sterilization. Decentralization is key, but brexit tyrants like Dyson will never share their automation technology or research with the public. Open source sharing is the only way to bring the price down to the point it can be decentralized.

Also, his vertical farm would not be profitable without his biodigesting power plant that gets free high-quality fuel from his non-vertical farm empire.

With his recent attendance in Riyadh, I thought it was worth reminding people of this.

@Five@slrpnk.net did not! He among a pretty broad consensus of other people was singing the praises of an earlier ceasefire, and claiming this was confirmation that Biden could have achieved one any time he wanted.

I appreciate that in your slander of me, you link to evidence that completely contradicts your statements. I hope that the dwindling group of people that gives you any credibility will check the receipts and understand what you represent.

I wish this weren’t newsworthy. Accolades to Scotland for recognizing that organized political speech against genocide does not the amount to murdering civilians to achieve political goals. What a low bar.

I’ve yet to see such deliberation over artists or others that have performed for Trumps administration.

I just think you haven’t been paying attention.

3 Doors Down lost a lot of credibility with their base for playing Trump’s inauguration. Even the Mormon Tabernacle Choir received condemnation from their fans, with some choristers speaking out and at least one resigning. Tasteless artists like Lee Greenwood, whose fans couldn’t fill a stadium, became the butt of jokes for their participation.

Flat-earthers share your self-importance as they also treat their outsider status as evidence of their social value. But one can’t take a step in sites like Reddit without having to scrape centrist ‘contrarians’ like you off the bottom of their shoe.

Your ‘perspective’ (i.e. criticism from the left is the real reason centrists are losing ground to fascism) is much too common on the large dying media sites to not have been considered, and bringing clearly uninspired and bad ideas to this new platform means you deserve all of the downvotes you receive.

The part of the US government that is replicating the values of the Saudi Arabian dictatorship in the United States is the Trump administration. Yes, everyone opposed to this also treats anyone who has taken money to further the Trump administration’s agenda as a pariah. Many of Trump’s shitheels have taken to covering their face to avoid the social consequences due to this extremely popular trend of moral consistency.

…lol.

How did that work out in the long run? I don’t know, but I hope somewhere in that long run you’ll look back on all of these comments you’ve made and cringe.