• Primarily0617@kbin.social
      91·
      1 year ago

      excuse me until i receive photographic evidence of reagan literally cumming in his pants as a white house aide whispers in his ear about deaths that he’s caused i’m not going to accept any possibility that he was anti lgbt

    • darq@kbin.social
      91·
      1 year ago

      I showed you evidence that his administration’s official position was that it was fine for LGBTQ+ people to die of AIDS. Quotes from his press secretary, the official who speaks on the administration’s behalf. Audio recordings of the room, which included Reagan, erupting into laughter when talking about gay people dying.

      I gave you more than enough evidence that he supported the death of LGBTQ+ people.

      Your argument is insufferably pedantic.

        • PugJesus@kbin.social
          91·
          1 year ago

          Faucci was heavily involved and he’s the one who rejected most the experimental treatment options.

          Why I’m glad he retired. The man has done enough damage.

          y i k e s

          The aids epidemic was a scary time to grow up but I don’t once remember anyone cheering over it. People were scared. People that caught hiv were Ostracized from society

          My guy prominent people were cheering it as late as the 1990s. But considering what you’ve said so far, I have my doubts that you’re here in good faith.

            • PugJesus@kbin.social
              3·
              1 year ago

              Fauci was one of the younger scientists working on AIDS research at NIAID at the time, and Staley said ACT UP members began to get to know him. “All the older scientists thought we were crazy,” he said. “But Fauci wanted to hear what we had to say.”

              “We liked Tony personally. He’s a brilliant scientist, a brilliant fighter of epidemics,” Staley said.

              “I was becoming friends with some of them, like Peter Staley and Mark Harrington,” Fauci agreed. “I felt very strongly that we needed to get them into the planning process because they weren’t always right, but they had very, very good input.”

              Fauci attended an ACT UP meeting in October 1989. After that, some of the group’s leaders on its Treatment and Data Committee would meet the NIAID chief and his deputy, Jim Hill, for dinner at Hill’s townhouse on Capitol Hill.

              Fauci said he urged the scientific community and his own staff to include ACT UP members in the drug trial process. “I was pushing and pulling these people and screaming, ‘Hey, we have to deal with them,’ ” he said. “I was in a difficult position because I was trying to convince the establishment that ACT UP had something to offer.”

              … did you even read your own fucking source

        • darq@kbin.social
          61·
          1 year ago

          Do you take everything hyper-literally, or only when you don’t like what other people say?

          Not they didn’t say it was ok they died. They said it was contained to the gay population. We didn’t have any good treatments for it at the time. You’re trying to twist things into something that was not said.

          THEY LAUGHED AT THEIR DEATHS!

          They made no effort towards intervention, and they withheld information that would have allowed LGBTQ+ people to understand what was happening, which could have been done long before treatment options were available. They have blood on their hands.

          You say Reagan knew many gay people. I hope they spat in his face while he was alive, and pissed on his grave after he was gone.

          • Unaware7013@kbin.social
            3·
            1 year ago

            You say Reagan knew many gay people.

            His buddy Roy Cohn died of AIDS and he didn’t say a word. Turned his back on him the moment it was public knowledge that he was gay.

            Anybody who claims Reagan ever gave a single wet shit about gay people is a fucking liar.