• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    I really am trying but I’m not sure what you’d want me, a Finn, to do to solve the issue of the threat of Russian aggression. I really don’t see many alternatives to us having a credible and strong defence.

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      9 months ago

      As Finn If you want a credible and strong defense purge your country from corrupted politicians who only care about wealth and profits. Vote for people that are against dictatorships and authoritarian states like russia, usa or china. Keep in mind that the whole system is rigged and the government and media have a strong grip on public opinion. Help your neighbors and organize with other people to improve the quality of life of everyone around you. Feeding your current government and giving up your rights will only make things worst for your own security and that of others. Stand your ground against propaganda, think with your brain and never listen blindly to orders.

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            9 months ago

            Seeing with how they’ve waging a war of conquest in Ukraine I think that might be one answer. With Russia you don’t have to think very hard when they’re constantly threatening their neighbors if not outright attacking them.

            So how would your suggestion save us from such possibility?

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              9 months ago

              Usa seem to be doing the exact same thing, what’s your plan to defend from usa if they decide to invade your country like they did with iraq?

              So how would your suggestion save us from such possibility?

              Russia invasions are made possible thanks to billions of public money spent on weapons and because of mandatory conscription. If your goal is peace and not invading other countries you want to do the opposite of what they are doing.

              If someone decides to attack you, you will defend yourself better as a free man not as a chained slave

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                9 months ago

                Usa seem to be doing the exact same thing, what’s your plan to defend from usa if they decide to invade your country like they did with iraq?

                We don’t live right next to the US and haven’t had to deal with their bullying and hostility for gods’ knows how long. So Russia seems a tad more likely candidate to attack us. But the military isn’t just for a single target, even if that target is the most likely one. So the strategy I assume would be similar in very broad strokes of utilizing a large, trained reservist pool to fight the US.

                Russia invasions are made possible thanks to billions of public money spent on weapons and because of mandatory conscription. If your goal is peace and not invading other countries you want to do the opposite of what they are doing.

                So what would that be, spend very little on defence and rely on just a volunteer army?

                If someone decides to attack you, you will defend yourself better as a free man not as a chained slave

                Pretty unfortunate if reliance on just that ends up with me being an even worse sort of slave, this time to Russian masters.

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                  9 months ago

                  We don’t live right next to the US

                  Neither does iraq

                  So what would that be, spend very little on defence and rely on just a volunteer army?

                  If someone doesn’t want to volunteer for you out of their own choice you are probably evil

                  Pretty unfortunate if reliance on just that ends up with me being an even worse sort of slave, this time to Russian masters.

                  Your assumption is that being forced to fight by a corrupted government somehow makes you a stronger fighter and that not being limited by anyone somehow makes you automatically lose. This is absolutely true for politicians because the moment nobody fights for them their rule is over.

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                    9 months ago

                    Neither does iraq

                    Too bad that was the only argument for why Russia is the one that’s a bit more likely to attack us. You got me there, USA is the one that we definitely should be talking about.’

                    If someone doesn’t want to volunteer for you out of their own choice you are probably evil

                    I think that makes everyone evil, which does level the playing field I suppose.

                    Your assumption is that being forced to fight by a corrupted government somehow makes you a stronger fighter and that not being limited by anyone somehow makes you automatically lose.

                    No, that’s not my assumption at all. The whole discussion is about country level capabilities, not their strength of will or so such thing.