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      Polls are informative. I will be voting for Biden in the general election or whoever the democrat is, but if Biden is struggling it’s good to know that to pressure him to do better. Your response reeks of the awful Clinton messaging that got Trump elected.

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        Words can have multiple meanings. In this case (definitions respective to the order they were used in the comment you’re quoting):

        1. Poll (noun): a questioning or canvassing of persons selected at random or by quota to obtain information or opinions to be analyzed

        2. Poll (noun): the place where votes are cast or recorded —usually used in plural

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      At some point if all the polls are saying Biden’s not doing too well, repeating “polls don’t matter” becomes dangerous. Sticking your head in the sand instead of pressuring Biden to do better to defeat fascist Trump is incredibly privileged.

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          Hit the road! Not just in swing states but every state, especially into black and brown communities and talk to the people. He also needs to do more in depth interviews live, none of this pre-recorded softball question staged crap. Publicly speak out against the Kroger Albertsons merger and fight to block it. Call for a ceasefire and stop funding the slaughter of children. Lower prescription drug prices for ALL not just seniors.

          This is just a start. There’s a lot more he can do but relying on “But Trump” is not enough. Voters are tired of hearing about Trump and want actual change that will improve their lives. The people are struggling.

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            Hit the road! Not just in swing states but every state, especially into black and brown communities and talk to the people. He also needs to do more in depth interviews live, none of this pre-recorded softball question staged crap.

            I’ll partially agree with you there. However, election season or not, he’s the incumbent and still has a job to do. I’d prefer he focus on that. Even if he was out campaigning more, then the narrative would be “Biden spends all his time campaigning, not doing his job”. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.

            Publicly speak out against the Kroger Albertsons merger and fight to block it.

            His administration is doing exactly that.

            Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/kroger-albertsons-supermarket-merger-biden-administration-sues-block-rcna140523

            Lower prescription drug prices for ALL not just seniors.

            Not within his sole power to do. The reductions for seniors are via the Inflation Reduction Act which allows the government/Medicare to negotiate drug prices. Unless we get Medicare for All, that’s about all the government can reasonably do to lower prescription drug prices. While MFA would be awesome, it’s not within his power to do either.

            Source: https://www.kff.org/medicare/issue-brief/explaining-the-prescription-drug-provisions-in-the-inflation-reduction-act/

            There’s a lot more he can do but relying on “But Trump” is not enough. Voters are tired of hearing about Trump and want actual change that will improve their lives.

            Considering those are the only two candidates (3rd parties are spoilers in the US - don’t kid anyone into thinking otherwise), “But Trump” should be enough (for the general election, anyway).

            Those are our choices, like it or not. And one is unarguably worse than the other. Much worse.

            Perfect cannot be the enemy of good.

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              Butcher Biden isn’t “good.” He’s evil, just less evil than Trump. He needs to step aside and let someone else represent the Democratic Party.

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                Butcher Biden

                “oh that’s only supposed to be for the primary to scare him.” boy that bullshit evaporated quick.

                tell you what, propose a candidate that’s better. I’ll wait. otherwise this is just fud, more fud from trumpies trying to get biden off because they KNOW THEY’LL LOSE AGAIN.

                fucking losers

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                  Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, J.B. Pritzker, Jared Polis, Josh Shapiro, I could do this all day. We don’t have to go with a feeble genocidal geriatric. It’s a choice. And when he loses in November the fault will not lie with people of conscious, it will lie with those who buried their head under the sand

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                    Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, J.B. Pritzker, Jared Polis, Josh Shapiro,

                    Oh ok, so which campaign are you supporting? Because NEWS FLASH, NONE OF THEM RAN AND THEY ALL SUPPORTED BIDEN.

                    And when he loses in November the fault will not lie with people of conscious,

                    yes, because… that’s not how that word is used. People of conscience will sleep fine knowing they voted for the candidate who didn’t start an insurrection and ban roe.

                    Shh… I know, you’re out of arguments and not getting your way is upsetting, and you’re afraid Butcher Biden is gonna come for you.

                    Some of these things are valid, but mostly it’s in your imagination. Calm down lil guy.

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              For being “the most important election of our lives” (for the 50th time) and also “the end of democracy if Trump wins”, Biden should be going at 1,000% then. All I hear are excuses why it’s too hard and how the all powerful Republicans block everything the Dems do. Funny how Republicans get a lot of what they want even when Dems control things.

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                🤦‍♂️

                For being “the most important election of our lives” (for the 50th time) and also “the end of democracy if Trump wins”, Biden should be going at 1,000% then

                So he’s not telling you what you already know enough? I don’t get what you’re complaining about here.

                All I hear are excuses why it’s too hard and how the all powerful Republicans block everything the Dems do

                What “excuses”? You can go to the House and/or Senate website and look at the votes for any bill. There’s no excuses, just numbers.

                Funny how Republicans get a lot of what they want even when Dems control things.

                It’s really not, though. Dems are willing to compromise to get something done and R’s will bury their heels and won’t budge unless they get exactly what they want (and then demand more or just vote against their own bills because it might make the D’s look good). And that’s when R’s are even trying to do anything other than obstruct while saying “see? government doesn’t work”

                With the former, we at least get something (even if it’s not perfect) and the latter gets us nothing (except tax cuts for the rich).

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                  Then I look forward to Biden fighting for universal healthcare, legalizing marijuana, getting rid of for profit prisons, raising the minimum wage to at least $20, guaranteed housing for all, breaking up Amazon, and more.

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        Polls are definitely not worthless, I agree… but this poll is confusing as fuck. Post SOTU polling showed the speech in highly favorable terms and the GOP response was extremely underwhelming… even here on lemmy there was a pretty positive response from the more progressive people.

        On the whole I’m just confused how an overall positive response could result in lower favorability.