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Shopping for a laptop as a Linux user:

Screenshot from the Simpsons where Otto is talking to Marge and Homer standing next to a window in their house with a caption “Oh wow, windows!.. I don’t think I can afford this place.”

  • Clent@lemmy.world
    319·
    9 months ago

    That wasn’t the accusation.

    There are many who use Apple laptops as Linux laptops.

    • oce 🐆@jlai.lu
      151·
      9 months ago

      I don’t understand your initial point. He’s talking about what you get when you buy a new PC. If you buy an Apple PC, you’ll get Apple spyware. It doesn’t imply anything about some Apple buyers putting Linux on their PCs

      • Clent@lemmy.world
        220·
        9 months ago

        Apple spyware means exactly what to you? You can’t just make shit up because you hate Apple. Then on top of that expect someone who is more knowledgeable to accept your ignorance.

        When people ask for advice and reject the most common paths that professional take because they cannot get over their own ignorance, they aren’t actually asking for advice. They are playing victim and looking for their fellow ignorants to ditto them.

        • cuerdo@lemmy.world
          16·
          9 months ago

          I 100% guarantee you that any Apple product is collecting your data and squeezing as much profit as possible out of it. Why? well, Why not!

            • cuerdo@lemmy.world
              62·
              9 months ago

              The source is common sense, same way I know that they turn off the lights at night.

              They can do it, they have the incentive to do it, there is nobody to tell them not to do it

                • cuerdo@lemmy.world
                  3·
                  9 months ago

                  I don’t think so, this is not a cultural war, evil will try to penetrate every system.

                  Of course it will be more difficult in a transparent system

          • Clent@lemmy.world
            15·
            9 months ago

            Except it’s not. It’s great that you understand most companies are positioned this way but Apple is not. I don’t expect anyone in a technology forum that cannot understand the nuances.

            Paranoia is good but if you choose Google because you falsely believe you have no choice because everyone else is doing it too, then cool.

            I am no pied piper and I wouldn’t want it any other way. I abhor groupthink and while I will never refrain from pointing out the obvious cases of it, I couldn’t care less if anyone listened. People far smarter than I have written on the folly of arguing in these instances.

      • Clent@lemmy.world
        311·
        9 months ago

        There are a lot of smart people making sure Apple hardware supports Linux. There is a limited number of variations, the hardware itself has high built quality and Apple pushes support into the Linux community so the hardware can more easily run Linux.

        The same cannot be said about any random windows laptop.

        As others have noted, if you want a Linux first laptop, there are options.

        However this idea that Apple spies on its users has no merit. It’s a claim I have only witnessed being made by the witless.

        I’ve been in the internet long enough to know not to expect fools to accept they are fools.

        Unlike the morons of the internet, I am always ready to be proven wrong. However, it doesn’t look like that’s about to happen here.