• distantsounds@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    That’s how you change a Biden vote to a vote for no one. Need to stop funding that genocide stuff

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      10 months ago

      Would you regret voting for no one if Trump ends up winning and escalates the genocide even further?

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        10 months ago

        No. Fuck the DNC and corporate democrats for putting everyone in this extortion position. Stop blaming people for what government itself is creating. Stop this bullshit

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          Yeah nothing you said there made any sense and Trump will offer to have the 6th fleet glass Gaza on his 3rd day in office, but you said it with absolute conviction so you must be right .

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            I don’t have anymore clown makeup to put on, but you keep on and dismiss the potential non pro genocide voters that could easily be won over by not aiding this bullshit

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          So just to confirm, you’re okay with abandoning Ukraine to its fate as well, then, if the outcome of the election doesn’t matter?

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              10 months ago

              Who is “we”? Are you speaking to what Biden is personally endorsing, or the right-wingers in congress who are currently trying to put their Russia-worshipping messiah back in the white house?

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                You cannot use the royal we to say it’s their fault if Trump does something, and then say “who is we”…

                Fucking pathetic, boy. Grow a fucking spine and stand on morals, not a predisposition.

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                  Check yourself for a fucking second. Do you understand how the US political system works?

                  Aid to Ukraine is being held back because Congress is controlled by a needle thin deadlock of Republican influence. That is something that can literally change overnight if one of the old fucks on the Republican side suddenly croaks. If an aid package for Ukraine ends up on Biden’s desk tomorrow, it will be signed and passed, end of story. Slava Ukraini.

                  Under a Republican presidency, that is not going to happen, and no amount of “muh principles” will fix that for another 4 years. The Democrats can retake Congress, but Trump will never agree to sign an aid package for Ukraine even if a perfect bill were to pass through the political circus. But sure, maybe Trump will do a complete 180° and start treating Arabs like people so you can feel good about standing up to Israel for a moment, even if it means enabling the rise of fascism in the US.

                  Get your head out of the fucking clouds and look around at the world for a second, “boy” (fucking racist dog whistle that is, by the way).

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                    Someone can still vote for Joe Biden in the general elections while still voting against him in the primaries while criticizing him, too.

                    Not all votes have to come with an ass kissing, you sycophantic goon.

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                Im speaking materially. The US is no longer funding Ukraine. If words from Biden were enough, they wouldn’t have just lost a city to Russian presence, but they did.

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                  Biden is advocating for Ukraine and has been pushing for aid to be passed. Biden is not the one who made the call to deny Ukraine aid. When the chief barrier to that happening is conservatives in power, why would increasing the number of conservatives in power fix that?

                  If Trump is in the white house, you can have a democratic controlled Congress that is willing to push through the much needed relief for Ukraine, and it will be vetoed every time because that’s what Daddy Vladdy wants.

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        If the choices are “enthusiastic genocide” and “genocide with some light tut-tutting”, then democracy failed.

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          Democracy didn’t fail us, corporate media fucked us.

          A very large portion of what any of us know about a given politician or policy is from corporate media and they absofuckinglutley have a desired outcome even if it’s as simple as using misleading ragebait just to get views. It leaves us less capable of making good decisions.

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      If the US completely cut off aid to Israel it would make 0 difference. We should cut them off foreign aid since they don’t need it, as they are definitely a rich country, but they have tons of money and even if they didn’t the current leadership in Israel would spend whatever they had. I don’t think that anything short of a hostile invasion will get Israel to stop but I’d love to be wrong.

      With that being said Congress - not the president - allocates this money. Look at how many votes Bernie’s bill to attempt to put restrictions on that aid got, neither party is going to do more than agitate people online about it.