While we can be pretty confident that Reddit has its own motivations (i.e. self-interest) for fighting these lawsuits, this is still a good news story for pirates.

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    10 months ago

    Food for thought: Lemmy instance admins probably can’t afford $800 an hour corporate attorneys to fight off subpoenas.

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      Sure, but that’s assuming the logs contain your ip in the first place.

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      Oops, I accidentally fired the sd card containing my instance running on my raspberry pie.

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        If that is really how you do it, you won’t need to fry it, it will happen soon enough by itself.

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          Seriously. Lemmy is a house made of patchwork quilt, with a bit of pine sap here and there to steady the few boards.

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          Huh, I exclusively browse Lemmy through a VPN and I’ve never seen that one.

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            That would probably be because your instance is different. Lemmy.world has recently blocked VPN traffic apparently because of bad actors uploading CSAM behind VPN. I also had issues with Lemmy with my VPN this week and either need to split tunnel or need to browse Lemmy as view-only.

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              Those bad actors are really stupid, a VPN isn’t going to protect them. You’re not magically anonymous behind a VPN, and such material is obviously going to attract the attention of very skilled cyber security experts & law enforcements.
              Idiots doing crimes never understand basic OpSec.

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      Would be a real shame if my instance’s logrotate was set to, say, only keep a few days of webserver logs. Real shame.

      Good luck establishing precedent with that!

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      Oh. They sued an instance? 😱
      Anyway… here’s another 5 hosted in Russia, or a country where piracy is legal, or just don’t give a fuck.

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        ok but what if in losing the suit, they must give up the logs and IPs?

        Before they go under?

        like the instance and the people that discussed piracy will be hurt

        and it will put fear in others

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          Not all instances keep logs…
          Some intentionally discard them, look into the policys of the instance you’re signing up to.
          All your comments and posts are hosted on your parent instance then shared to the federated instances.
          Some instances don’t even let you sign up with an email or make it optional.
          Lemmy.world keeps logs, but much more controversial instances often don’t.
          Also it’s much more complex, because you have to think about the scope of the potential lawsuit as well as the given evidence that a user is actually sharing the material infringing on their copyright; which will not be a large amount of the user base. They can’t simply sue a user for having an account, the user has to actively be sharing infringing material.

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            And, to be fair, a gofundme for stuff like this often gets full very fast

            If the community is big enough to get sued it’s also big enough to spread a link for funding, easy