He signed an executive order on Thursday, saying violence had reached “intolerable levels”.

The sanctions will block the individuals from accessing all US property and other assets.

Violence in the West Bank has spiked since Hamas’s 7 October attack on Israel.

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    By literal genocide I think you mean “cultural genocide” and I think it is fairly immoral and inaccurate to believe that Hamas is a fundamental aspect of the Palestinian culture.

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      If the IDF hadn’t killed 27,000 civilians and reduced aid imports to a point the UN is ringing the famine alarms then you’d have a point.

      Unfortunately you’re just trying to conflate Hamas and all Gazans

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        Just to be clear, you are accusing Israel specifically of war crimes other than genocide in this last response.

        Do you know what genocide is or are you just repeating a word because other people are?

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          Nope. There’s a ton of war crimes going on, but they all add up to genocide. You don’t get to create a false either/or, and the definition of Genocide is set in international law. Not your head.

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            Well, no? Genocide isn’t defined as something like, “5 or more war crimes put together equals genocide,”

            So I agree with you that you can’t just invent a definition to genocide which is why I find your comment so ironic and I highly suggest looking up the definitions used by the people who will be trying this case.

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              I didn’t say any 5 war crimes. I said these war crimes. Again, you misrepresent reality to argue in bad faith.

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                Well 5 was an example? But clearly you think it is less.

                How few war crimes does it take to equal a genocide in pretenland?

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            " the Jews are comitting genocide and the liberal world order is helping them and anybody who questions me is on the payroll."

            Just keep flooding my inbox with variation of this and eventually you might beat me into submission. Could it plausibly happen? Sure. I wouldn’t expect it though

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              I’m not trying to beat you into submission.

              I’m trying to make sure that when someone sees a comment of yours trying to deny genocide, that someone sees evidence immediately that you are factually wrong.

              Of course, I know you’re paying in bad faith, but here I just have you exactly what you asked for, and yet, you just move the topic of conversation. Good job, sophist.

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                I’m sorry, I didn’t realize accusing people of being paid genocide deniers was the behavior of somebody not attempting to silence the opposition.

                If you can’t present your case without bad faith tactics, you clearly don’t have a case or you morally are not the person to be presenting it.

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                  I literally have with the links you requested, implying I was lying if I didn’t.

                  You ignored that. Do you recognize now that the ICJ has ruled that Israel is plausibly committing genocide, or is the Hague and NPR antisemitic?

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                    Plausible in the ICJ’s context means reasonable to inquire into. Plausible in your case means certainly happening no inquiry required.

                    But your case so far stands solely on changing the term genocide to just mean war crimes and the term plausible to mean certainly.

                    I’m not sure that’s the correct thing to do in the situation.

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            " the Jews are comitting genocide and the liberal world order is helping them and anybody who questions me is on the payroll."

            Just keep flooding my inbox with variation of this and eventually you might beat me into submission. Could it plausibly happen? Sure. I wouldn’t expect it though.

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              I’m flooding your inbox with what you literally asked for.

              Funny how you just keep posting your genocide denial.

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                I have 3 other people who have been behaving in the exact same way, replying to my comments from my comment feed and not from their own inboxes.

                Is Gish galloping an agreed upon tactic or did you all naturally decide on your own to employ it?

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                  I’ve never heard of gish.

                  Giving you the links you asked for when you bullied me by accusing my recognition of genocide as antisemitic is defending myself and pointing out your bad faith.

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                    Did I ever actually accuse you of being an antisemite? Forgive me but there has been so many I’m talking to that I’m trying my best to keep you all straight.

                    I’m not sure if you are an antisemite, but you are repeating a thousands year old conspiracy so I do need to fully parse through your claims to ensure antisemitism is not happening. I apologize to you for that, but the people who came before you with these claims were essentially always history’s bad guys.

                    You should want us fully verifying you are what you claim to be before we support you.