• Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      Man literally handed east Jerusalem and the Golan Heights over on a platter to bibi and the white left are still on about how not voting will totally teach the establishment their lesson this time.

      • Sybil@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        the white left are still on about how not voting will totally teach the establishment their lesson this time.

        I have never seen this. I think you are making it up.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        Man literally handed east Jerusalem and the Golan Heights over on a platter

        It wasn’t the US’s to give. Israelis were encroaching on East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights for decades. There’s very little reason to believe a Bidencrat would have held them back any more than the current President is restraining them in Gaza. Both parties are wholly subservient to the AIPAC lobbyists and will bend over backwards to appear in line with Israeli foreign policy.

        I’ll spot you that Barack Obama in particular was an exception to this rule. But by 2016, his foreign policy demands were being completely ignored from DC to Riyahd. I don’t see a President Hillary or even a President Bernie performing meaningfully better. Certainly, nobody was going to have the balls of an 80s-era Reagan and threaten to pull military funding if the Israelis didn’t back off. Even Obama couldn’t manage that back in 2014, when the Israelis bombed the shit out of the southern half of Lebanon.

    • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      11 months ago

      Yes. People conveniently did forget that. They also forgot that every single POTUS since 1948 has been pro-Israel.