The former president has pushed a slew of terrifying proposals, both publicly and privately, that he plans to unleash on America should he take down Biden

Here’s what’s at stake:

  • He will indict Biden and his other political enemies
  • He will round up, intern, and deport undocumented immigrants
  • He will send the military to the border
  • He will invade Mexico
  • He will round up the homeless and send the National Guard into cities to fight crime
  • He will bring back the death penalty in a big way
  • He will make stuff more expensive by taxing all imported goods
  • He will reevaluate America’s participation in NATO
  • He will roll back all of Biden’s climate progress and reinvest in fossils fuels
  • He will construct “freedom cities” filled with flying cars
  • He will try to overhaul the education system in the MAGA image
  • He will torch the First Amendment by going after non-MAGA media
  • He will legally delegitimize trans Americans
  • He will pardon the Jan. 6 rioters
  • He will gut the federal government and take unprecedented control of what’s left
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        Would you like it more if you knew that they’re the ones who used the term because it’s a fascist dogwhistle?

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        Can we stop calling overfenders “wide body”.

        Sorry, unrelated.

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      They were kind of pretty lame as insurrectionists, I mean they were let in, they had inside tours and were given specific instructions.

      God’s gracious their two neurons didn’t meet each other on that day.

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          And I love how the fact that they weren’t immediately mowed down with gunfire somehow implies they were permitted to be there. No they weren’t, it wasn’t a tour, it was an armed insurrection. Cops showing restraint doesn’t make you any less culpable for the crime.

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        Fuck off fascist.

        The protests for racial justice had literally no chance of toppling the government. Whereas the coup attempt was the closest our democracy has come to destruction since the civil war (I’m sure you were cool with the slavers in that one, eh?).

        The insurrectionists are an antidemocratic force that go against everything this country stands for whereas the George Floyd protests were demand our government live up to its ideals that “all men are created equal” and deserve full rights under the constitution.

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    He wants to indict Biden, whilst simultaneously creating / wanting freedom to never be charged with anything when you’re president. Which has to happen before he’s able to become president again.

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      Which would mean that Biden could simply direct SEAL Team 6 to execute Trump with impunity, solving the problem.

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        But the ruling won’t happen till AFTER T gets re-elected (or cheats his way in), when Biden wouldnt be pres anymore. Delay, delay, delay is the game.

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          Trump is already insisting all this is above board - I’ve gotta say, I’m a little tired of calling out all his/their bullshit.

          …but yeah - reelection is his only ticket out at this point, it seems. Even general Dem refusal to rock the boat seems to be wearing thin, and that won’t count for much in court.

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        Isn’t there something in the rule book that the president can avert dangers against the U.S. by force…?

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          Biden should file Amicus brief with SCOTUS presidential immunity case saying if they are so ok with what Trump’s lawyers are saying, he has Seal Team 6 standing by awaiting their ruling.

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            Why stop at Trump? If they’re willing to create a dictatorship out of one party, it’s only fair that the other party takes the reins when the opportunity arises. /s

            Democrats should clear the senate, house and courts of any dissenters upon the ruling.

            Keep seal team 6 on standby to really get the political machine straightened out.

            That’s where this goes.

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            I would question trolley probably at depth, as national stability and prosperity are a presidents job and they have multiple organizations and forces at their disposal to accomplish this.

            We as individual citizens do not have that authority and power.

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    He will round up, intern, and deport undocumented immigrants

    A few months later, farmers are surprised there are no cheap workers anymore to help in the fields. Farmers get in (more) financial problems, prices start to rise in the supermarket as supply shrinks. Trump blames Democrats for his actions. Rural voters get more angry.

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      This sort of played out in Australia where everyone also hates the scary immigrants, except it was when backpackers stopped coming during the height of covid. Once the farms ran out of people to exploit and realised there weren’t many Australians willing to go live in a shed in the middle of nowhere and get paid a criminally low wage they all started freaking out. They even started ‘importing’ labour lol. And of course the response is ‘nobody wants to work anymore.’

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        UK had the same with Brexit. Kick out all the scary foreigners, found out there were a lot less people willing to harvest, wait tables or drive trucks for the wages being offered. Last I heard, there are still no people to do those jobs, just less business.

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          Food is simply too cheap, no one can raise prices because it’s a controlled system. Besides, people will buy less stuff it prices go up.

          And paying an honest wage for the work? Cuts into profit margins…

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      Have you seen the amounts of chaos farmers are able to cause?

      Examples in France, the Netherlands and recently Germany?

      You do not want that shit in the USA, because your farmers are not only equipped with heavy machinery but firearms as well. If they start blockading critical interstate or transit roads just to make a point, I think it is likely to end in deaths.

      We’ve had one situation where a moment of panic resulted in a police officer opening fire on a kid driving a tractor. No one got hurt but because of how our law works, every time a firearm is used by regular law enforcement, a criminal investigation is opened. And the officer was charged with attempted manslaughter.

      Would this have happened in the states, I’d have expected a different outcome.

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      Cue him trying to funnel their anger towards his (next) political opponents

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        That’s how fascists go about their business. By the time it becomes evident that their actions against the current entry on the “then they came for” list aren’t going to solve solve the problems they claimed they would, they have already started ramping up their hatred for the next entry on the list.

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        His plan if he gets to be president again is to not have to worry about political opponents anymore. He’ll still demonize them and blame them for everything going wrong, but the elections will be cancelled.

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    Trump pulls pages out of other people’s handbooks. His MAGA bullshit was Reagan’s. Now in 2024 he’s walking in Hitler’s footsteps. I’m not saying ”Hitler” as a buzz word. I’m saying it, because he’s literally doing it. His whole schtick is Hitler’s and his* base are lapping it up like mindless fools. Open your eyes and reject authoritarian assholes like Trump. It’s all fun and games until the things you believe in are eventually taken from you. I might not agree with everything others do, but I sure as fuck believe in people’s rights to determine what’s right for themselves. Trump and all his cronies believe they know what’s right for others — they don’t. They know what’s right for themselves. If you want to vote for Trump, vote for him. But don’t think that something you hold dear won’t eventually be attacked by him or people like him.

    Edit: a word*

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      Yep. January 6th was his Beer Hall Putsch. A failed coup. But Hitler got what Trump should have been getting, i.e. a prison sentence for treason.

      Then again, perhaps that prison sentence was one of the things that gave him so much power later on.

      There are some significant differences too, though. Hitler was 34 years old, and a war veteran at the time of his first coup. Trump was 74, and he was the first US president without prior military or government experience.

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    The only thing I’m sure he will do is ensure that he keeps the power for the rest of his life. USA will have his first dictator!!

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      I was gonna say, isn’t that like 5 more years? But I remembered that evil never dies (and Regan lived to 93).

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        Well he has children so you can expect the Trumps to control the country for decades if gets elected. I firmly believe his election would mean the end of us democracy and the begining of autoritarian era all over the world.

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    The problem is that this sounds like a very sexy shopping list to people on the other side. Some of these are enticing even to a lot of democrats, especially the ones about crime in cities. We know it’s a bullshit promise that would fail spectacularly, but the idea of it is scintillating to some. I fear for their votes.

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      This is the similar problem to the election where he won. He pushed a shopping list of utter insanity, but to many, it was change. When you feel that you are on the fringe of society, and that the world doesn’t recognise/respect you, you’re going to go for the candidate that says “I’ll make it different” - even if that difference is categorically worse.

      It’s how the right wing wins everywhere, from Brexit, to the Netherlands, to the US.

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    I try really hard to believe that assassination is not a solution

    You know, it makes the guy a martyr, and riles up his followers.

    But they seem pretty riled up already.

    And they and he are really, really wanting to make America a totalitarian state

    And if they did, America would break up.

    It would be a generally bad result, maybe good for California.

    Actually I hear a lot about liberals with guns, I guess the left lacks armed idiots

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      If SCOTUS says the Seal Team Six theory is perfectly legal…

      Then Biden should execute Trump as an official act. With plans for Harris to covertly off him. Appoint someone new as VP. Harris resigns. Everybody is happy. Right? Right??

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        Maybe people will realize that being politically active requires a lot more than complaining online during election years.

        This could have been avoided a long time ago. But the far left is notorious for not showing up when it’s necessary, only to complain afterwards and pretend they had no part in it.

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                Libs plugging both ears and running guns-blazing into the maga cult was never on my 2024 bingo card, but enjoy your time there while it lasts.

                The MIC needs you to fight me, so please keep it going friendo.

                Why won’t they think of the 1%er boots we could lick :(?

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                  I’m not a liberal. baby, I’m an anarchist.

                  and I’m not gonna be voting for trump either.

                  I’ll be voting for a candidate who opposes the mic. will you?

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          If you’re going to make me pick between Biden and Trump I will pick neither.

          DNC has the full power to pick an actual candidate. Really trying to make this a “me” problem when it isn’t.

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            You’re being made to pick whether to keep a democracy or succumbing to fascism. And you’re picking fascism because you think it’s not your problem.

            I don’t want to see you complain after this election.

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              “Keep a democracy” as if the illusion of choice has ever been anything more than an illusion 🤣

              “Don’t come crying to me” is some boomer shit, I swear to god.

              If you’re even a little itsy-bitsy-uncomfy reading this as a lib, you best buckle up.

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                Already with the tankie talking points? Figures you’d be the one to criticize, cry, blame everyone else, and dip.

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                  As long as you can hand-waive away your own responsibility for the collapse, the libs will continue to throw around “tankie” instead of engaging in meaningful discussion.

                  If you’re arguing in good faith, you must (at least at some point) understand that you’re arguing against your best interests (which is exactly the same thing you accuse MAGA of)

                  Quite frankly, nobody needs you to defend the boots of the man stepping on Palestinian children.

                  But you will likely continue despite that…

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            Oh it’s absolutely a you problem. YOU don’t understand what’s at stake. YOU are stubborn. YOU refuse to listen to anyone that has tried to explain to YOU the consequences of YOUR decision to stay home.

            What YOU are doing affects EVERYONE. But YOU don’t care.

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                Such eDgE! Social justice has never seen such a warrior like you!

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                  It’s genuinely crazy how much time libs will waste arguing online about how they are the ones actually doing things to help the world and that the leftists are the keyboard warriors.

                  You can dismiss us if you’d like, but please remember, this comment will always be here for me to tell you I told you so Pratai :)

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              No sir, you will get Trump.

              Rest of us are fully ready to fulfill the true American Dream (and fuck off to somewhere we can start a family)

              The DNC has decided to make its bed w/ Biden and I didn’t personally do shit to cause that one way or another.

              End the MIC

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                Newsflash, fascism is on the rise everywhere and letting the US get overrun will only make it worse everywhere else.

                If you so think that you can shove the problem over to the next country, I so hope you stop complaining about it and fully commit to stoically accepting that life as it is.

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      Yeah I’m still hung up on that even though I shouldn’t be. That is so far fetched while the other ideas are much more realistic but much scarier. It feels like a distraction.

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        No the others I get, he’s a dictator and we’re all going to die… but that’s…

        Imagine you’ve got a sadistic psycho who has tied you to a chair, and he’s getting out a scalpel, a cat of nine tails, vicegrips, and a bottle of Vitamin C tablets

        …Your focus is gonna be on the Bottle because the other stuff makes contextual sense and your brain is trying to piece together the part it doesn’t get.