• meeeeetch@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Nothing to do with it? There are thousands of uninvited members of a foreign military in five of their oblasts right now.

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        Not every invasion is imperialism.

        It was a stupid decision by a leader trying to cement his legacy by repairing the USSR and attempting to restore the lost power of years past.

        Imperialism is expansion in to previously unoccupied lands. Scramble for Africa. Roman expansion. Colonization of the Americas.

        Not invading a satellite of years past first through clandestine methods then with a true military force.

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          Imperialism is expansion in to previously unoccupied lands. Scramble for Africa. Roman expansion. Colonization of the Americas.

          None of the lands you just listed were unoccupied. They literally had indigenous people that were eradicated or absorbed into the empire.

          …like what Russia is trying in Ukraine.

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            I think they mean unoccupied by them. So for example, WWI wouldn’t be imperialism because Germany and France both claimed to be the Holy Roman Empire and Flanders is within that territory. I disagree but I understand the argument

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              Yes, although WWI is a bad example. Continental domination wasn’t the goal of WWI, it was the result of the web of alliances. You could argue that taking control of colonies owned by the other European nations is imperialism, but that seems like late stage colonialism issues. Can’t colonize once everything is occupied.

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                  11 months ago

                  Definitely Henry VIII.

                  I can agree with Italy as well, it was supposed to be a show of strength and gaining of new territory. I wouldn’t call it colonization, Ethiopia was more advanced than what most neighbors were able to field.

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        Russia isn’t a federation. It’s still the USSR but different tactics and name.

        Why did Russia start this in 2014? They lost their puppet government in Ukraine. Russia desires secure borders. They always have. Ukraine slipping away necessitated Russia to invade to reinstall a puppet government. The bonus for Putin was retaking Crimea after the USSR gifted it to Ukraine in the 80s I believe.

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          Ok that’s bullshit. They’re hyper capitalist and anti communist and anti equality. They share similarities to the USSR, but those qualities also appeared in czarist Russia. Russia is just like that and will be until they fix it

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            USSR was barely communist. They were closer to fascist than communist.

            Releasing the grip slightly to appeal more to the global market was strategic to adapt to the times.

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              It’d be cool if the anarchads and demsocs of yesteryear had coined a catchy term to describe the Soviets who were genociding them and making deals with Hitler.

              Oh wait, they did.

              Red Fascists.

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                Yeah exactly lol USSR was not a communist nation. Soviets aren’t communist, Maoism is closer to Marxism.

                People look at the name of the country and assume it all changed. USSR -> Russia was just a rebrand and trimming the fat of the less than useful “members” of the “alliance”