• sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz
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    11 months ago

    Imperialism is expansion in to previously unoccupied lands. Scramble for Africa. Roman expansion. Colonization of the Americas.

    None of the lands you just listed were unoccupied. They literally had indigenous people that were eradicated or absorbed into the empire.

    …like what Russia is trying in Ukraine.

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      11 months ago

      I think they mean unoccupied by them. So for example, WWI wouldn’t be imperialism because Germany and France both claimed to be the Holy Roman Empire and Flanders is within that territory. I disagree but I understand the argument

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        11 months ago

        Yes, although WWI is a bad example. Continental domination wasn’t the goal of WWI, it was the result of the web of alliances. You could argue that taking control of colonies owned by the other European nations is imperialism, but that seems like late stage colonialism issues. Can’t colonize once everything is occupied.

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            11 months ago

            Definitely Henry VIII.

            I can agree with Italy as well, it was supposed to be a show of strength and gaining of new territory. I wouldn’t call it colonization, Ethiopia was more advanced than what most neighbors were able to field.