• Dem Bosain@midwest.social
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    11 months ago

    They’re not wrong. Azov have been far-right extremists since the beginning. But imagine if a foreign country invaded the US and gained a sizable stronghole. We’d be arming right-wing militias to repel the invaders too.

    They’re a help now, but Azov will be a problem in the future.

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    11 months ago

    Okay, and?

    Russia is the pressing threat. Throw Russia out first, and retake Crimea. Then deal with Azov fanatics. That’s what triage is; you deal with the big thing first, and then the smaller things. You don’t treat an amputated finger while someone is gushing blood from a severed carotid.

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        11 months ago

        Never going to happen.

        Defeatist.

        Also never going to happen.

        Also defeatist.

        This is the point in time where I ask how Putin’s boot tastes like. Palestine kept fighting for over 80 years and your view of Ukrainian resolve speaks volumes. Sure, Azov might be the Ukrainian equivalent to Hamas, but last I checked invasion tends to breed extremist groups and those extremist groups tend to be a pain in the invaders ass. Word to IS and Al Quaida, who still haven’t been defeated by US imperialists. Will it take some time for them to get curbed after all is said and done? Yes, just look at the IRA. Needless to say, you’ve got plenty of other historical precedent to contend with.

  • TrendigOsthyvel@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    This play ruzzian propaganda so well. Just keep adding stories about nazis i ukraine and at the end, noone will be certain about whats true or not. Still, ofc there are nazis in ukraine, but that is true about all countries.

  • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    I’m not really sure what they’re trying to raise as a specific issue here.

    Azov are a part of the Ukrainian military. That’s Ukraine’s decision. If we give arms to Ukraine there’s a good chance some of those arms will end up in the hands of Azov members.

    There’s not really any way to avoid that. We need to put diplomatic pressure on Ukraine to deal with the problem of far right extremists in their country (and, y’know, it would probably help if we were leading the way by doing more to deal with far right extremists in our own country), but abandoning them to the Russians just because they’re not perfect paragons of progressive idealism isn’t helping anything.

  • deft@ttrpg.network
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    11 months ago

    Bullshit propaganda supported by disingenuous supporters of this instance.