And that they will federate with them ? (Can’t seem to find it anymore at least)

I wonder how many people we’re gonna lose over this, because I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time. I already migrated once, I’m not gonna do it again because some people can’t realize how toxic it’s going to be when they federate with us.

I see a lot of people saying they’ll just switch instances but haven’t seen anyone say they’ll just jump ship, am I alone ? Or maybe I’m missing an option that would allow me to transfer all my settings from one instance to another ?

  • AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    725·
    9 个月前

    I see a lot of people saying they’ll just switch instances but haven’t seen anyone say they’ll just jump ship, am I alone ?

    I have switched instances a lot. I don’t like the idea of other people curating my feed.

        • Dandroid@dandroid.appEnglish
          14·
          9 个月前

          I had a spare computer that I installed Linux on a while back, but wasn’t using it for much at the time. If set up like that, all you would pay for is the electricity, which is very low if you’re only running Lemmy, probably only a couple of US dollars a month. You could probably run it on a raspberry pi, tbh.

          Personally, I have solar panels that power my whole house. So it’s free for me.

          • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
            7·
            9 个月前

            Personally, I have solar panels that power my whole house. So it’s free for me.

            The dream. I want to do this too when I buy my house, but living in northern Scandinavia makes it hard to run off solar during the winter.

            • Dandroid@dandroid.appEnglish
              3·
              9 个月前

              I live relatively close to the equator (Texas), so it’s actually better for me in the winter because I don’t need to run the AC.

                • Dandroid@dandroid.appEnglish
                  4·
                  9 个月前

                  Not sure what you mean, but I just meant that because I use about a quarter of the electricity in the winter while still generating about 90% as much electricity, I end up selling a ton of electricity back to the grid, building up credits that I can use for cloudy days in the spring.

          • jinn@lemmings.worldEnglish
            1·
            9 个月前

            Thanks, I appreciate the insight 😊 you’re setup sounds very well thought out and I respect it 🍻

      • roofuskit@lemmy.worldEnglish
        110·
        9 个月前

        This is actually detrimental to the network unless you’re hosting a lot of other users. If it’s just you then you’re adding the federation load of an entire server just for your own personal use. Now all your subscriptions are a separate server pull on all the instances you subscribe to. Instead of using an existing instance that is already pulling

        • Howdy@lemmy.zipEnglish
          4·
          9 个月前

          I did for awhile. For me, it wasnt worth the effort. Hot tip: go ahead and switch to blob storage for pictrs or your hosting fees are gonna get expensive quick.

      • woelkchen@lemmy.worldMEnglish
        1·
        9 个月前

        so many instances in the fediverse are still federated with Threads

        Threads doesn’t support federation currently, so nobody is federated with Threads at all.

  • walden@sub.wetshaving.socialEnglish
    683·
    9 个月前

    I don’t think the world admins really care if users transfer away. That’s just federation in action. Good stuff.

    • NOSin@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      257·
      9 个月前

      My original concern about “losing people” wasn’t about transferring away, but rather about leaving the fediverse entirely over the concern of having to remake an account and having to curate up to my standards all over again. Which is now a moot point since I’ve been given solutions to migrate easily.

      • walden@sub.wetshaving.socialEnglish
        101·
        9 个月前

        Oh gotcha. I’d suppose that if a person is that concerned with Threads, they’re probably invested in the idea of Lemmy such that transferring to another instance is not out of the question. Someone who’s not interested in putting in the effort to transfer probably doesn’t feel strongly either way about Threads. That’s just an assumption on my part, of course.

      • HelloHotel@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        9 个月前

        OP really would appretiate a tool like that! Can you tell us what the tool is.

        • NOSin@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          103·
          9 个月前

          Since it’s a moot point now, it’s not a consideration anymore but ew no, that wasn’t even an option in the first place.

        • enkers@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1613·
          9 个月前

          Outside, maybe? lol

          Edit: Weird, my comment started at -1 karma. Is this thread being botted or something? Oh I accidentally downvoted myself…

  • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.mlEnglish
    43·
    9 个月前

    The new 0.19.x version allows you to export and import your basic settings like subscriptions and blocks. I personally haven’t tested it though.

    Otherwise, here on lemmy, activity from threads is unlikely to reach us or have too much of an impact as following lemmy communities won’t work well on their end. This presumes that they’ll be focused on implementing microblogging and mastodon compatibility, which are very fair presumptions IMO. Not saying that you shouldn’t care … just that there’s probably much more time than you think. On top of that, Threads’s implementation of federation seems to be going slowly.

    • NOSin@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      86·
      9 个月前

      Thanks for the infos

      I will see how it actually turns out, and yeah I didn’t expect an instant “everything turn to crap” moment, but good to know that there’s an option to easily migrate if need be. Although just the idea of them having any kind of access via federation really bothers me and I somewhat doubt they won’t try something to “absorb” as much people as they can into Threads, that something having many possibilities in how it could manifest.

      • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.mlEnglish
        41·
        9 个月前

        I’m with you.

        If you haven’t seen it, here’s a great write up about federating with threads that does a really good job of outlining why there’s more to this than “but I have friends and relatives on instagram” and “isn’t it good for the fediverse to be popular?” arguments: https://erinkissane.com/untangling-threads

        My little tldr + hot take on the article here: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/111627736340220610

        It’s by @kissane@mas.to on mastodon if you’re on there. I find myself enjoying and agreeing with just about everything they say about the fediverse and social media.

        • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          9 个月前

          Yikes

          Meta’s lead for Threads, Adam Mosseri, was head of Facebook’s News Feed and Interfaces departments during that long, warning-heavy lead-up to the genocide of the Rohingya in Myanmar. After the worst of the violence was over, Mosseri noted on a podcast that he’d lost some sleep over it.

          • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.mlEnglish
            2·
            9 个月前

            Yep. I didn’t know that part.

            And somewhat symbolically, his account is the first you can follow from mastodon. You can file him and get his posts in your feed right now. I’m on an instance that hasn’t blocked threads and I’m following him now. Creepy TBH.

        • NOSin@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          31·
          9 个月前

          Thanks for the shares, very interesting, it’s much worse than I thought it turns out ahah

          I’m not on masto, lemmy is enough to browse for me on a daily basis but I might check out a few things there

          Now, even though it might not change much to the future of the fediverse with meta meddling, I’m definitely migrating !

  • sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net
    287·
    9 个月前

    Threads federation really is a tempest in a teacup. People getting worked up over nothing.

    Meta’s failed twitter clone probably won’t even federate with the threadiverse. Just look at this post. I see lemmy, I see kbin, I see lotide, I don’t see mastodon, pleroma, friendica, and so on and so forth at all. I don’t see minds (did you know that minds federates?), just a few programs of the same type.

    • HelloHotel@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      9 个月前

      Im just gonna wait and see what happens. Whatever ends up happening, Ill respect and stamd behind the desision of my home instance unless they start to sour like world did.

  • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
    151·
    9 个月前

    Threads won’t affect Lemmy that much. Threads users will basically have to deliberately interact with Lemmy posts or communities to show up.

  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    61·
    9 个月前

    I’m having trust issues with them. I had an issue with them in their support community where they most likely deleted comments and then wouldn’t own up, and now I’m at another instance. I would have left when they said they wouldn’t defederate threads anyway. Leaving isn’t that hard. If .19 gets figured out, you’re supposed to be able to leave easily as well.

    • HelloHotel@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      9 个月前

      Ive had comment buggieness on lemmy.world. comments would only go public hours later. Mabe a client bug, mabe .world oddness

  • HelloHotel@lemm.eeEnglish
    2·
    9 个月前

    I beleave there are tools to transfer account settings, personally, keep at least 2 lemmy accounts around (we had a DDOS scandle a while back), dont delete your world account just yet. lemm.ee is like what world is/was before filling up with users, else look at the lemmy server browser. Hope you end up somewhere happy, wherever you end up going.

  • sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net
    31·
    9 个月前

    Incidentally, there’s an 8 day old post on the topic that is showing in my instance and I checked the source it wasn’t deleted when I went.

    • HelloHotel@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      9 个月前

      I may be looking in the wrong place, but I found this post looking for that post. I know it exists as of an hour from postimg this.

  • EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    827·
    9 个月前

    Let Lemmy.world die Alone and leave them.
    They dont care about ideology or others, they are juste sharky and want to make for them a name on the work of others.

    I see it like it,

  • Yerbouti@lemmy.mlEnglish
    931·
    9 个月前

    Join us on lemmy.ml! Small and chill instance. Most people are nice left leaning FOSS geeks, interactions are mostly super nice. The only thing I dislike is the Chappo Trap House community, they will basically bully anyone who’s not a chappo-bro. I blocked them and voilà ! EDIT: Lol, why am I getting downvoted ?