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    YouTube might be the biggest challenge yet given the extraordinary amount of storage needed to recreate it.

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      Its also getting the content creators onto the new platform. Thats a bigger challenge I think, without creators it’s a dead site really, and making videos is significantly more difficult than image or text posting.

      For storage, if we assume the format would be WebM at 1080p, 60fps and 20 minutes in length, it turns out to about 1GB. Even a cheap VPS instance usually offer 50GB of storage (with not too expensive storage upgrades).

      So if its distributed evenly, we can host a good bit of videos (nothing compared to YouTube though).

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    Yeah, no. The deaths of those websites have not happened yet, and when they do, the Fediverse will not be the one holding the scythe

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      Yeah, FB was killed by the younger people abandoning it for other SM. Twitter was killed by Musk. Reddit was killed by Spez.

      And by “killed”, I mean “lost some users and content quality”. They still have millions of active users.

      And my personal feed on Reddit is pretty much unchanged. Very few niche subreddits went into an extended blackout, so I still got all my content. And since I use the mobile website (FF+uBlock), the API change didn’t affect me that much. But I hope more communities from Reddit will move over here, especially the non-tech ones.

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      Right, it’ll be death by suicides.

      Google should probably be on there too. Can’t find anything either non-corporate or irrelevant these days.

      I was looking for js libraries that extended the ecma array prototypes, Google gave me a billion pages about how to use the ecma array prototypes.

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    lol reddit is still kicking, people. Don’t count your chickens yet.

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    Mastadon, Searx, Fediverse, and so on aren’t killing or replacing the sites they’re modeled after, not even close. They’re just providing a privacy focused alternative for those who don’t want to whored out by corporations or abused by powermods or shitty business decisions

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      This response isn’t meant to be argumentative, I’m just learning:

      Isn’t the fredieverse have the issue of being not very private at all? Aren’t our up votes public? Is our viewing history freely available to those that maintain an instance?

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        They’re private in the sense that there isn’t a corporation stealing your data without your knowledge, selling it without your consent, whoring you out for ads against your will, and/or making your experience shittier to manipulate you into buying their paid features. These alternatives offer a much more pure experience for the typical user. Things like comment and vote history being public is just a part of the design of the forum, they’re not tools to farm your data.

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          A corporation can still be “stealing” your data without your knowledge if info is public, it’s called Scraping

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          Is that true though? Any given instance could be running their own data collection.

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      No one said they are killing or replacing them , I moved to fediverse becuase the govt cant bully them into censoring certain content that was being removed from major SMs in my country

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        No one said

        The post portrays the grim reaper killing them and is titled “the decentralized web is growing”

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    I frankly don’t see a way for federated video to happen unless uploads are severely limited or it’s paywalled. Even with YouTube’s wild compression, you’re looking at several gigs for a single 4k video.

    Honestly the fact that YouTube exists is a miracle. Video is still just monstrously large.

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      Well, time to switch to watching Nebula?

      I can’t see how it will work for small-time creators though. Or for people who just want to show a video online.

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        I love nebula too. They’re definitely what I imagine federated video would be though. Restricted uploads, and paid. Nothing wrong with that though, video is expensive.

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          Well, one question is how it’d be paid for. You can’t really have a federated payment provider, can you?

          So would you have to pay for each separate server somehow, gathering them up like streaming service subscriptions?

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            You can’t really have a federated payment provider, can you?

            Not to sound like a crypto bro, but this is literally the biggest benefit of cryptocurrencies, easy transfer of money between people wallet to wallet, and you can choose your exchange to exchange the money between crypto and cash.

            Unfortunately crypto bros absolutely ruined crypto for everything it could’ve been

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      Is size really the issue though? I can torrent more than I can store on my hard drives.

      Seems like you could build a video streaming service on that. (Actually I think some people already did this.)

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        Lbry does exactly this. Actually it works way better than the last time I checked it out. I’m guessing they have invested in a centralized storage solution because I’m encountering basically no missing videos and extremely fast playback which wasn’t the case the last time I checked them out a few years ago

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    I literally have like 1TB of video stored on YouTube and privatized. Google is making $0 from my videos, but they still have to store them and have them available if I want to watch it (it’s all of my Twitch VODs). Meanwhile websites like Streamable perma-delete my 5MB video after it gets 0 views in 2 milliseconds.

    YouTube is a behemoth that will not be replaced.

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    I would love a decentralized TikTok replacement. Aside from everybody’s privacy complaints, TikTok has a really addictive delivery model.

    I would think that short video clips would be easier to federate than beefy 4k video files.

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      I feel like addictive algorithms are a big part of what we need to get away from.

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    Peertube already exist. If you have to upload a video to show someone on the internet it’s already more convenient than youtube as you don’t have to login and access with google accounts.

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    So for twitter it’s mastodon, for reddit it’s lemmy, for youtube odysee maybe, but what is it for facebook?

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      Mastodon -> Twitter

      Friendica -> Facebook

      Pixelfed -> Instagram

      Lemmy/kbin -> Reddit

      PeerTube -> Youtube

      Owncast -> Twitch

      FunkWhale/Castopod -> Music/Podcast

      BookWyrm -> Goodreads

      WriteFreely -> Blog

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        Now if we could somehow get LinkedIn. It will be the last core of evil pro corporatism.