Why can’t the devs have it update in the background or on next startup? I was in the middle of my work when I got this. Now I need to close everything and go through all the logins and 2FA again. 😡

Chrome is much better at this, hands down. It has never interrupted me the way Firefox does during updates.

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    I use it on both Windows and Mac, I’ve never seen this o.o

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        In my experience - having 2 different instances (e.g. if you want 2 icons on the taskbar) and one having updated.

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          Yup! Two different profiles running at the same time. As soon as I update one, I’ll update the other one as well to avoid this.

          Though whenever I forget, it’s a pain!!

          I think this could be handled differently. Interrupting the user’s work half-way through is such a bad, bad form.

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            I hate the way paint.net does it. It tells you there’s an update and that it can do it after you close the program. Cool! So I finish what I’m doing, close paint.net, it updates and then it automatically starts up again. Why? I just closed you, you dummy!

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      Yup, this is called ‘User Error’. User messes it up, User blames the software.

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          It’s very clearly communicated when you install and set it up.

          • × Allow Firefox to automatically install updates (recommended)
          • ✔ Check for updates but let you choose to install them.
          • × Use a background service to install updates.
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    If you don’t want this you can change things.

    When you first install Firefox, uncheck install updates as a service. Personally, I don’t like applications running services in the background all the time. When I close something I expect it to be gone, and I don’t want it running until I tell it to.

    Second, go into settings and change your update settings to “Check for updates but let you choose to install them”. Firefox will pop up with a discrete notification telling you when an update is available, asking you to download, then another dismissable notification telling you to restart to update.

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      Stupid people don’t read anything when they install, then they complain they didn’t ask for this…

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    I’ve been using Firefox since 1.0PR and I’ve never seen this message before. For me, Firefox has always quietly downloaded the update in the background and then installed it the next time I used it.

    I’m curious to know just exactly what it is you’re doing to make this message come up.

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      I saw this yesterday on Linux after a typical update command and it surprised me. Restarting FF reopened all my tabs without issue and it wasn’t really an inconvenience to me.

    • You should be able to replicate it with:

      • Ubuntu 20.04 container
      • Install Firefox from a deb earlier than 120.0.1(current in repo)
      • Open a few tabs and navigate to various web apps
      • apt update, upgrade
      • Once update completes, open new tab and navigate somewhere, you’ll get this message

      Not sure if it actually happens with each update, but it seems so to me.

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      I typically keep Firefox open all the time with 50-100 tabs, (using various extensions to keep the organized)

      This happens to me every few weeks and it’s genuinely annoying, unless I had all my tabs saved it just lose them, and instead of giving me a chance to do that, Firefox just becomes useless until I hit the button.

      I don’t understand why, if it’s going to put a page like this up anyway, that it doesn’t just restart on its own; I would prefer it to not do either but at least that removes the unneeded button click.

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    For anyone who is still confused about what causes this: Firefox launches copies of itself when creating new website instances (usually when loading a website that has not already been loaded). Because of this, if it is updated in the background (through any means; I usually see this after a manual system update), Firefox has to restart when you try and load a new site because it cannot create any compatible copies of itself, since the old version is the one that is still running and the copies would use the new (updated) version.

    The solution is to only update when Firefox is closed, or restart it when it asks.

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    This happens when FF updates out of band. Ie package manager.

    Your windows updates are probably set to also get applications when it updates. Turn that off and see what happens (next month).

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      I see it under linux after updating Firefox through the package manager. Maybe OP’s distro auto updates packages?

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      it usually happens on linux (and maybe macos??)
      if you update firefox using your system package manager it will ask for a restart

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    Probably already been said, but I’m wondering why you haven’t just checked the box in Settings for automatic updates that says “When Firefox is not running”, because I’ve never encountered this problem with that turned on.

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    I feel like I only see this on Linux installs and never on windows.

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        Are you sure you don’t have some other software updating Firefox in the background?

        Normally this only happens on Linux when your package manager updates Firefox while it’s running, and on Windows that doesn’t happen because Firefox updates itself only when you (re)start it.

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          On Ubuntu it’s because it’s a snap package, and snap does whatever it wants. I have not yet been inconvenienced enough to bend it to my will yet

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            Yet another reason never to use Snaps. Why would you allow Ubuntu to force you to use the bloated Snap package?

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          No, I don’t have any such updater programs. Firefox and other programs update themselves or show a pop-up saying new version is available.

          on Windows that doesn’t happen because Firefox updates itself only when you (re)start it.

          I always thought it updates itself in the background and asks user to restart browser? Is that not the case here?

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      Not on the Linux systems I’m familiar with. The only way to trigger anything similar is to execute a package update while running FF, at which point new tabs will show a message to restart, but you can keep on using the open ones indefinitely.

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    I’ve literally never seen this in decades of using Firefox. It always downloads in the background then I get an icon on the taskbar telling me to restart to finish the update.

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    My pet peeve is when it updates and instead of letting me go on my way, it opens the stupid “Firefox has updated” tab.

    Nobody asked, just duck off, shut up.

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      The site that launches after updates is for telemetry - the request gives them information on the updater (IP, geo location, OS, localization, fonts, fingerprinting, etc).

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    At least I see it coming as I manually do updates on my Linux machine, so I know when I’ve updated Firefox.

    The one that gets me is some websites don’t throw that message, they just fail to load. Youtube is bad at that.

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    And if you’d tried to use a search engine in that new tab, you’re presented with a blank tab after restart, having to remember what your search query was.

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    I have never seen this in all my time using Firefox. It always tells me there’s an update available and prompts a restart but I can still continue using the browser.

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      For me this happens after I update Linux, so if you have Firefox open while a Firefox update is installing, upon finishing, if you open a new tab in Firefox then it shows that screen. For me the more annoying part is that on Linux the language I set Firefox to is reset to Englisch after every update, I maybe set something up wrong because on windows I don’t remember having this problem but it happens after every Firefox update on linux