• RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world
    88·
    11 months ago

    Webp is actually a decent format, it’s just that a certain desktop OS used by roughly 70% of people chooses to not support it

    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
      23·
      11 months ago

      decent format

      poorly supported

      Hmm. I know what you mean but wide support is like 90% of the usefulness for a general image format.

      • sock@lemmy.world
        22·
        11 months ago

        its kinda like linux, its great and everybody loves it

        but only 2% of people use it

        as lemmy shows those 2% realllllly like it.

        • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
          6·
          11 months ago

          Don’t I know it, as a decade+ Linux user. Technically best thing doesn’t always win the popularity contest. For a general use operating system lack of software (and game) support is a similar issue as lack of support for image format and it’s really harming Linux too.

          • stanka@lemmy.ml
            7·
            11 months ago

            Steamdeck has really pushed devs to make their games linux compatible. Native would be nice. But this is great. I haven’t booted into windows for games for most of the year.

            • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
              6·
              11 months ago

              Valve has been a real blessing for Linux. I haven’t had a dual boot system in many years but some games just doesn’t work or needs fiddling. And while I’m fine with that, I know most aren’t. And that’s fine too. Maybe someday.

            • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
              2·
              11 months ago

              Native would be nice, but devs not having the need to maintain an extra version is why there’s been so much progress in the first place.

        • jeremyparker@programming.dev
          5·
          11 months ago

          I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

          Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

          There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
      14·
      11 months ago

      Lemmy.world’s android app doesn’t fully support it. I frequently get broken link image and never get animation. I know it can work because the same posts work in the Thundarr Lemmy app.

    • only0218@sh.itjust.works
      11·
      11 months ago

      *It isn’t as decent when you look at it’s raw facts but for the web it’s a step into future.

      *Now behold of avif!

      ! please can we just get jxl for web finally…? !<

  • Empathy [he/him]@beehaw.org
    37·
    11 months ago

    I really like WEBP.

    It supports transparency, animations, and compression, and seems to look really good even with very strong compression. It’s a shame that, despite it coming out 13 years ago, it’s still barely supported by so much software.

    • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.comEnglish
      7·
      11 months ago

      Sounds to me like people need to stop supporting software that doesn’t take the time to update. WEBP is great, and I haven’t run into a single program that doesn’t support it, personally.

          • MDKAOD@lemmy.ml
            1·
            11 months ago

            Okay, perhaps. It’s been a little while since I’ve tried it. While unrelated, it took Adobe 3-ish years to implement support. That’s hardly acceptable, and isn’t really defensible.

    • PopShark@lemmy.world
      4·
      11 months ago

      But can it convert animated webp’s back into the gifs they’re based off of anyway? That’s what makes me really hate the webp standard. If I save an animated image as webp no video converter will touch it that I’ve found. I just want my gifs and mp4s back :(

  • Darkassassin07@lemmy.caEnglish
    30·
    11 months ago

    99% of the images I save are used as a desktop background at work for a day or two.

    .webp doesn’t work as a windows desktop background…

    I end up just screenshoting and cropping.

    .webp is great until you need to use anything that wasn’t built with it in mind. Lots of stuff just never bothered adding support.

      • Darkassassin07@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        That’s what I’d do on desktop for sure. (or for something particularly high res)

        I’m usually saving them from mobile, screen capping and using the crop tool that pops up is the quicker route.

        I don’t care to keep the .webp then have to transform it every time I need another format.

  • I Cast Fist@programming.devEnglish
    18·
    11 months ago

    It annoys me that Firefox won’t autoplay animated webp, at least ones in Lemmy posts, unless I open a whole new tab just for the fucking .webp

      • I Cast Fist@programming.devEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        Nope, it doesn’t even show the controls if I mouse over, no different options with a right click, as if it was a jpeg image instead of a small video. Also, that’s the case with webm, not webp, but I guess my trouble is still valid? Dunno now

    • Classy@sh.itjust.works
      22·
      11 months ago

      Spending up to a minute or more opening a huge-ass program to just convert one single image doesn’t seem exactly elegant to me. Maybe it’s easy but it’s also a bit of a pain.

      • sock@lemmy.world
        5·
        11 months ago

        he’s a Linux user doing stupid convoluted things for simple outcomes is kinda their thing

        • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          3·
          11 months ago

          I have had a number of webp issues on Linux. Support is nowhere near as bad as it was several years ago, but I still have a few programs that don’t work with webp.

          I would imagine it’s a much bigger mess on windows since so many programs will have their own image processing libraries.

        • AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world
          12·
          11 months ago

          In my case, Illustrator and XD, which I use a lot. One of the best features of XD is the ability to drag and drop images into placeholders but I can’t do that with webp. In Illustrator, importing a webp file crashes the app.

          • 768@sh.itjust.works
            8·
            11 months ago

            For a program costing US$22.99/mo crashing and not accepting webp, which is so abundant, is extrem. Especially crashing for such an expensive program is not acceptable.

            • MDKAOD@lemmy.ml
              1·
              11 months ago

              If it’s supported, then it doesn’t work. Photoshop also fails to open web the last time I tried it earlier this year.

        • lad@programming.dev
          4·
          11 months ago

          Also, some sites don’t recognise webp images when I’m trying to upload those. Like, it’s literally made for web, wtf

        • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          1·
          11 months ago

          Last week, I tried to send a picture using QSSTV and it wouldn’t open the webp image I saved from a website, so I had to convert it first.
          Up until last year, Libreoffice didn’t support webp and many Linux distros haven’t updated to the version that supports it yet.

          Even GIMP and ImageMagick didn’t support it for quite a while. Before they supported it, it was almost impossible to do anything with webp.

  • corus_kt@lemmy.world
    10·
    11 months ago

    I disabled webp in firefox and still had to get a secondary image converter extension to get around this format, I wish I could opt out forever.

    Legitimately amazing compression for gifs, but isn’t supported for shit outside of the browser it comes in, be it editing images or upload to older online galleries. Good luck to anyone who just renames the file format to png/jpeg, now you have no idea what’s actually the correct format when you need it… I used to think that was a good idea, until I faced programs that would not run ‘renamed’ formats whatsoever.

    • El Barto@lemmy.world
      9·
      11 months ago

      What were you thinking with the whole extension renaming ruse?!

      But anyway, I’ve done that too.

      I think it’s a matter of time. MP3s were not support by many tools when it first came out.

  • The Snark Urge@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9·
    11 months ago

    You know when you were a kid and the was a toy in a clamshell of plastic that was super hard to tear?

    It’s a bit like that, but with less chance of slicing your thumb open

  • yesman@lemmy.world
    8·
    11 months ago

    Why are people converting .webp to png with a program!? Just rename the file with the .png extension and it’ll work. Try it.