• Margot Robbie@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Replacing the buttons with a tablet has always been a cost saving measure on Tesla’s part that was marketed as “futuristic”, physical switches and dials made of plastic and metal as well as the underlying components will never be as cheap or as easy to wire as a simple touchscreen control. Other car companies followed suit, because Tesla made a method of reducing their own manufacturing costs hip, so many of them jumped on it.

    But, Tesla tablets were designed with the belief that this cost saving is possible because of the delusion that full autonomous self driving is possible with existing hardware through software updates. When self driving didn’t happen after a decade of trying, people realized how inconvenient and dangerous it is that the only way to adjust the AC, stereo volume, and sideview mirrors while driving is through a tablet with no tactile feedback. So now, we are finally seeing that trend reversing.

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      11 months ago

      Especially when the buttons move around in the GUI after an update so you accidentally press the wrong ones, or end up having to search the menus while driving.

      Perhaps this could change when we have mainstream tactile displays, but until then buttons will always be better.

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        11 months ago

        I think using a car tablet is equally as dangerous as texting and driving. Voice control would actually be better for adjustments while driving.

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          11 months ago

          Indeed and it seems attainable now, if it weren’t for the expensive hardware and massive energy required for general pre-trained transformers. Don’t want my car to call home just to run a neural network on Azure, it needs to run locally.

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      I don’t think autonomous driving had anything to do with the initial choice. It might be a reason now, but I don’t think it was the initial driving factor.

      You left off it being marketed as clean and minimalistic. I think that’s different enough from futuristic. Some people love that aspect, some outright hate it. (Edit and I mean this in a looks fashion, not a functionality one)

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      11 months ago

      Also, Tesla’s button replacements actually do work more or less reliably. The other manufacturers decided to save money by adding a potato instead of a potent CPU that powers the screen in the middle of the console.

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      In practice though Tesla has buttons for the controls you need while driving.

      Cruise control/lane keeping/cancel is a lever

      Indicators, flash high beams is a lever

      Park is a button

      Windscreen wiper single wipe is a button, same button is window wash

      Set speed is a scroll wheel, volume is a scroll wheel (and a touch control on the passenger side)

      Navigation is on screen keyboard, but you should stop to change navigation, or have a passenger do it

      Climate control heats or cools towards your target temperature, heated seats and steering wheel are automatic or touch screen, but you know you need them before you get in the car

      What more would you want physical controls for?

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      I had huge reservations towards Tesla’s control system, but in reality, I got used to it in a week. And I’m loving how clean and sleek the dashboard is otherwise. What I don’t understand is the car makers who include a huge tablet AND a dozen gadgets around the dashboard. That’s worst of both worlds.