Timothy Murray lost his father earlier this year and had been asking his principal for counseling when she called in the police
Data from Brownsville ISD seen by The Observer showed its officers made 3,102 student arrests between May 2021 and Nov. 2023. Nearly 60% of those were on felony charges and 76 of those kids were in elementary school.
what the fuck is going on over there
what the fuck is going on over there
Brownsville is 94% Hispanic or Latino. This is Texas doing Texas shit.
Just republican shit.
Murica! Murica! Murica!
What % of those kids were assholes?
asshole doesn’t mean criminal
I’m just saying… you never had a kid in class that was years older then everyone else, not doing shit, disrupting class all the time, getting violent and ending up in jail for attempt murder just after leaving school? I had. I wish there was a way to get him out of school earlier. I would be a better environment for everyone. But there wasn’t so they had to deal with him till he was 18 yo. Then on the other hand if you let teachers kick kids out they will get lazy and start locking up children for anything like in Texas.
Do you know what solitary confinement is? It’s putting someone in a cell, likely without furniture, for lengthy periods of time (discounting an hour of exercise by themselves). The light never turns off. There is absolutely no stimulation whatsoever allowed. Other prisoners yell through the air ducts in the hopes that someone will yell back.
That environment is torture for an adult. This is a 10-year-old child.
You really think the general populace is safe for a 10-year old?
Solitary confinement sucks, but in many cases it’s done to protect individuals from, you know, the other extremely violent people.
How about not putting them in prison at all?
Then why the fixation on solitary confinement?
If your objection is on imprisonment then argue against that, not the specifics of a certain imprisonment.
So, to be clear, you support prison and solitary confinement for preteens?
Yes, and babies that cry too much.
If you’re trying to be funny, you’ve taken it too far. You should be yeeted into a Texas prison where you claim immature assholes belong, because this situation isn’t a fucking joke.
Holy shit lighten up. It’s not even the original poster, the sarcasm was very obviously implied with that comment.
Edit: nvm, I see now they are tag-teaming. Smells like trolls.
Are you for real? I’m seriously asking, because if you are, you need help.
Not in elementary school
Weird, in my case it was only in elementary school. High school was not mandatory so the disruptive kids simply didn’t go there.
Edit: Oh, just realized that you probably also have middle school. I didn’t. It was the same school from age 7 to 15. Education was mandatory till 18 or 16 yo so the school was stuck with all the stupid kids till then.
Ahhhh right, simple mistake to make. Middle school kids definitely deserve solitary confinement. Fucking what??
I hope that maybe you’re just ignorant to what “solitary confinement” means, but even then, you’re talking about locking children away in fucking prison for misbehaving in 6th grade art class. Get a grip.
Jesus, who’s talking about solitary confinement? Not even the original comment mentioned it. I definitely didn’t. Relax. It’s a shitty situation but getting angry about things you imagined is not going to save anyone.
If being an asshole was illegal Texas would be a prison.
They’re working on it…
Texas. The new Australia.
wtf is wrong with you?
Were you never an asshole as a kid? It’s part of growing up. We work to make them better, but arresting them does nothing worthwhile.
- Kids are kids. Asshole parents raise asshole adults.
76 arrests of elementary students? Does it really matter? I have a hard time believing any arrest is appropriate for that age
Shouldn’t matter. You don’t throw kids in jail just because they are assholes.
You’re making up 110% of them
I’ve tried to understand what the charges are, as far as I could tell it seems it’s somehow related to an anti terrorist law and caused by the kid pulling someone’s hair and gesturing to cut paper with scissors, which was interpreted as gesturing to cut a finger.
The article seems to try very hard to obfuscate the actual reason (I’m guessing for legal reasons?)
In any case, this seems insane, seems like excessive overreaction from everyone involved.
its because there is no actual reason for it. they are still trying to document one
texas, you fuckin cowards.
The whole thing is weird.
His ordeal began five days later. In the late morning of September 8, Timothy was pulled out of music class and ushered into a room where he found Garza, Assistant Principal Michelle Saucedo, a district police officer, and a counselor sent from the district’s central administrative office. He was told another student had just reported that Timothy said he was planning to kill the principal. Rincon said she was called and rushed to the school but was not allowed to be in the room while Timothy was being questioned.
“When the police officer had his body cam off, they were yelling and telling me, ‘We’re gonna go to the full extent. We’re gonna put you in a lockbox,’” Timothy said. “Then, when the body cam was finally on, they were so nice.”
Timothy told me he had explained to the school and district officials that the accusations were not true, that the only conversation he had that morning was with two other boys about wearing his sweater over his uniform.
Rincon has received only a school conduct referral form, on which administrators wrote that “Timothy told another student that his hair was messy because he was up all night to come up with a plan to kill Mrs. Garza (principal).” Underneath, Timothy wrote: “No I was not up all night I just forgot [to comb my hair].”
On the bottom of the form, administrators had written: “OSS [out-of-school suspension] 3 days 9/11-9/13.”
https://www.texasobserver.org/why-was-this-11-year-old-honor-roll-student-put-in-solitary/
Not the point of this article/topic but why is law enforcement required to wear body cameras but they can turn them off whenever they want!? That’s asking for abuse! Unless they’re using the restroom (and even then I’d lean towards an independent reviewer deleting footage, if anyone). These are public servants on-the-clock! If there’s no enforcement, there’s no consequences to purposely deactivating the taxpayer-funded camera they’re supposed to be operating under…
So it started with a kid who made up a really tall tale, told it to an adult in the form of completely unsubstantiated hearsay, which the admins for some mysterious reason chose to belief. Those admins must be either stupid or malicious.
I’m leaning towards maliciousness, jealousy and spite as the most likely reasons for why this is happening.
Unless the kid brained someone with a tee ball trophy, I categorize this penalty in the “extreme” category.
Texas, bruh.
Obviously the cops and prosecutors are real shitheads here, but I think some blame goes to a piece of shit principal who woukd call the police on an 11 year old.
The DA and Principal are likely related, same last name. I’d bet this isn’t the only incident between these two, with the principal setting up the targets and the DA knocking them down.
She also apparently called CPS on a different mother for questioning her special education program.
None of them should have any kind of power over others. If we ever manage to fix this system despite the dipshits that are trying to break it further, whether system comes next should have a specific focus on preventing people like this from getting power or keeping it if they manage to hide themselves until after they’ve gained power.
And also the stupid law that allows charges against children. Our system of kids under 14 not being “strafmündig” (criminally responsible) is often criticized and has other issues sometimes but at least it prevents shit like this
Data from Brownsville ISD seen by The Observer showed its officers made 3,102 student arrests between May 2021 and Nov. 2023. Nearly 60% of those were on felony charges and 76 of those kids were in elementary school.
What the everliving fuck is wrong with these people?
It’s Texas. They’ve NEVER been afraid of letting everyone know just how big of pieces of shit they are.
Everything’s bigger in Texas.
Its Texas lol. Our government prides itself on having no empathy or compassion whatsoever.
See the list of executed juvenile offenders before the federal government made it illegal:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_for_juveniles_in_the_United_States
Or the time the state was in contempt of court for years because they didn’t want to revise the excessively cruel CPS system.
That’s just absolutely fucking insane.
Despite being accused of ignoring Texas laws which require parental involvement before such interventions, Cameron County District Attorney Rene Garza told a hearing Wednesday that his office was gathering further evidence against Murray, rather than deciding to drop the charges.
If the law protects you, it will be ignored and the people who ignore it will face no consequences for their lawlessness. The law is for hurting you, and only laws that hurt you count.
i cant stop laughing at the idea of the grown ass adults asking a 10 year old boy if be wanted to hurt himself whilenin handcuffs so they put him in a turtle suit and solitary his ass
What kind of incompetent principal reacts to trouble making elementary schoolers by calling the cops on them?
This article:
https://www.texasobserver.org/why-was-this-11-year-old-honor-roll-student-put-in-solitary/
Should shed some light on the subject. Particularly:
Garza comes from a Brownsville education legacy. Her mother, Rachel Medina Ayala, was one of Brownsville Independent School District’s first female superintendents. Garza’s two sisters are also principals in the district.
So, in answer to your question:
What kind of incompetent principal reacts to trouble making elementary schoolers by calling the cops on them?
A nepotism hire with a vindictive streak.
Jesus Christ, I didn’t even know dynastic public school administrators was a thing…
The DA that’s refusing to drop charges shares the same last name.
Conservative ones. Conservatives should never be in a position of authority over others, especially children!
Well thats just an entire chain of people that are so completely divorced from reality, common sense, and compassion, that humanity would only benefit from them being skimmed out of the gene pool.
People think Texas is the lone star state. The reality is that Texas is the one Star review state.
I think you are being very generous with that one star, lol.
The devs don’t let you give no stars. A design flaw, imo.
I mean, we have a lot of climate/agricultural diversity across the state as well as three cool, very progressive, large cities within a few hours of each other… I’d say it’s at least 2.5 stars
Is this your first experience with Texas?
This is the same detention center that had an employee who embezzled 1.2 million dollars worth of fajitas over the course of 9 years. He only got caught because he took the day off to go to a doctor’s appointment and a delivery of 800lbs of skirt steak showed up that no one else was expecting.
What I’m saying here is the Darrell B. Hester Juvenile Detention Center isn’t known for the fastidious oversight of its employees.
…. Wtf is some one gonna do with 800 pounds of fajita?
Sell it to local restaurants for less than the county paid for it.
One mother said that, after a meeting with Garza about her 5-year-old in which her own mom questioned the school’s special education plan for the boy, Garza called Child Protective Services on her.
Garza’s mom questioned it? Or the 5yr old’s? Or the mother of the 5yr old’s? Who is “her” referencing?
5-year-old, mom, and grandma showed up to the meeting with the principal. Grandma questioned the school’s special education plan. Principal called CPS on mom.
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You may want to reconsider your own reading comprehension.
One mother said that, after a meeting… in which her own mom questioned the school’s… [plans], Garza called Child Protective Services on her.
Who is her and her own mom?
It is not specified at all.
You also completely failed to address the question at hand. OP asked who the “her” in “her own mom” is referring to. Your modified sentence doesn’t even acknowledge the “her” in question.
Why are Texans so fragile
everything’s bigger in Texas!!1!
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Howdy Arabia is a police state hellscape. I cant wait for my parents to retire and move back up north so i never have to go back to that hellhole ever again.
Is there anything the Texas government ISN’T afraid of?
More guns. Apparently.
This seems very strange, like it took place in a parallel universe or something.
Americans have truly lost their minds…
Only about half of us, but yeah.
Please send help.
if you actually want to protect kids, this is the shit you form a posse to go protect right? for all the people worried about children this is where you would show up at the court and/or prison and demand their release?
Dude this is in Uvalde. They already let a couple of fat cops prevent them from saving their kids.
