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I think the iMessage push is a US only thing, mainly because almost everyone uses SMS/iMessage for texting, and if you don’t have an iPhone you’re stuck with the standard SMS features.
In other parts of the world they use WhatsApp, Telegram, or other multi platform messaging apps, so no one really cares about iMessage.
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I’ve been on an iPhone for about 3.5 weeks now and iMessage is driving me nuts. It might be the reason I go back to Android.
- You cannot use any other apps for SMS messaging on an iPhone. iMessage is the only option.
- Unlike Google Messages, it is impossible to use a desktop app to send and receive your text messages… unless you replace all your computers with Macs. Most iPhone users don’t have a Mac, so this is just missing functionality.
This is dumb. I used that feature constantly. It’s the worst thing about the switch.
Microsoft’s phone link app works with iphones messaging app now.
When I tried it, the integration was pretty awful. Photos were difficult, and it only showed messages from the current session, not from all time. Searching or replying to a message from yesterday wasn’t possible. Maybe it has gotten better?
Your second point is exactly why I got on the beeper waiting list ages ago. It has been a game changer being able to text from my pc for the last 6 months or so, and I’m hoping it comes back… mine currently isn’t receiving messages.
Beeper on desktop user here for over a year! It’s still working great and I hope it never goes away. I believe it uses a different system than the android version.
I think I’m in that unlucky 5% of users that apple is blocking. Mine quit last week.
Edit: I should mention that I can still send texts, but receiving is broken and no amount of relinking iCloud account/reinstalling/yelling at the top of my lungs seems to fix it.
Are you using Beeper on desktop? It’s my understanding that they are using Mac Minis somewhere and Apple can’t do anything about that
Beeper on Desktop works for me but it’s a long waitlist. But it still works as of this moment. All my chat apps are linked to it, it’s amazing
I used it for a bit. It was nice sending and receiving images from iPhone using friends that didn’t look like blown up 50x50 thumbnails of jpeg artifacting
I feel the same way. The tinkerer in me was interested when it was first announced, then saw they wanted me to pay for it and immediately lost interest because I didnt think the app would make it to the second billing cycle. Apple blocked them even sooner than I thought! I wish north americans could move on from sms…
The apps built around it and linked in Apple’s Messages app are the actual useful parts of it – Facetime to video chat and Find My to continuously show your friends on a map
Plus, FaceTime is redundant many times over and Find My sounds like a privacy nightmare that I wouldn’t give any permissions to anyway.
They’ll win if they file legal action. Their servers are not a public service and they offer no invitation for Beeper to use them for compute. A podcast app developer likened it to if a competing app tried to use his servers to sync podcast subscriptions. When you frame it as anything other than a big corporation stomping on a smaller company, it’s obviously stealing resources. I am not endorsing either side. Just stating a fact.
Beeper did mention the DMCA protection on reverse engineering.
That being said regardles if beeper wins or looses. If apple sues and at the same time breaks beeper mini they could run into financial trouble very quickly.
I don’t really get the big deal, it feels like a janky workaround when people could just use a different messaging platform and wait till Apple complies with the EU order
Around where I am, lots of friends have Apple devices but chats are still scattered across various messaging platforms
Its just the silliest things. I would love for these people to be strapped into a chair, forcibly made to download Signal and open account, and be like “Oh, deng it Buck, its really not such a big fucking deal that I was bitching about nothing in relation to”
Do it to everyone who refuses out of non-principle and suddenly, the bullshit excuse (“but but nobody’s on it”) evaporates
Or, a step further, since the original Beeper is a Matrix server with various open source messaging bridges slapped on it, with a fancy client interface… Why not just fucking use a Matrix server with those bridges set up? Or even set up your own Matrix server and iMessage bridge?
Beeper is literally paying people to set up open sources services for you. I’m not against this, it’s a good business model, but Beeper has obviously put the cart before the horse here.
Its just not sustainable, any relation to closed fundamentally insecure “services” like iMessage. iMessage is dogshit, always has been, never won’t not be
Never won’t not be
Triple negative. Nice!
That isn’t not how I do 🤣
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Ah good to know, seems more of a thing in the US
Other messaging platforms it is
Seems like they’re shooting themselves in the foot with that one, non-Apple users usually aren’t willing to convert to Apple products, and this is only going to widen that gap.
The whole walled garden thing feels like an effective way to keep potential customers out.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
It wasn’t the resulting lower-quality images, loss of encryption, and strange “Emphasized your message” reaction texts.
There was a gathering on Saturday, and she had to double-check with a couple people about the details after showing up inadvertently early at the wrong spot.
Migicovsky pointed to Epic’s victory at trial against Google’s Play Store (“big tech”) as motivation.
Citing privacy, security, and spam concerns, Apple stated it would “continue to make updates in the future” to protect users.
I asked Migicovsky by direct message if, given Apple’s stated plan to continually block it, there could ever be a point at which Beeper’s access was “settled,” or “back up and running,” as he put it in his post on X (formerly Twitter).
“Us,” he clarified, meant both Apple’s customers using iMessage and Android users trying to chat securely with iPhone friends.
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This is by far the most useless thing I’ve seen you generate.
Omg who cares or even uses this 😂
I hate Apple, but they are entirely in the right here
