• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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      Neither of the choices you’d vote for are viable either, unless all you care about is war spending.

      I will be voting third party.

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        Today on Lemmy, which is dumber?

        -Distilling an entire presidency to what happens in proxy wars (the RU one admittedly being an amazing deal for the US against a long term adversary).

        -Voting third party in '20/'24

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          the RU one admittedly being an amazing deal for the US against a long term adversary

          You chickenhawks say the same things about every war. I remember 2003 when Iraq was going to last six months and cost 30 billion. “Mission Accomplished”. Back then you told us it was a bargain because Saddam had uranium.

          Voting third party in '20/'24

          What’s dumb is seeing 40 years of conservative outcomes and the progression of fascism under a Democratic president and then telling us to do more of it.

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            Back then you told us it was a bargain because Saddam had uranium.

            I don’t remember this, care to provide some justification? The way I remember it is that Americans were tricked into being afraid of Saddam and his WMD and it was sold as a preemptive move to a bunch of people still reeling after the 9/11 attacks.

            Russia is actually a major adversary, this is not secret. They are also acting like aggressive imperialists. I would be hesitant to get boots on the ground, but helping Ukraine defend itself is both a win for us, and the right thing to do.

            I don’t see how they’re really comparable.

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              Holy shit I’ve argued with you a few times, this comment is actually something I can totally agree on.

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            Back then you told us it was a bargain because Saddam had uranium.

            Nope, I was against that war before it ever started. Ukraine isn’t even close to the same situation.

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            the progression of fascism under a Democratic president

            Please explain your reasoning behind this statement and compare those outcomes to the alternative (voting republican)

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          There’s always going to be some Trump-like figure waiting in the wings if you demand that we continue limiting ourselves to these two parties alone.

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            That’s not remotely true. If you look at the demographics data, we basically have to just hold on until the Boomers die. Once that happens, Republicans will be a severe minority if they don’t change their politics. Then the left can go back to its usual circular firing squad without risking American democracy.

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              Then the left can go back to its usual circular firing squad without risking American Democracy.

              Jesus fucking Christ thank you. Republicans just line up to be cucked by Trump and their worst policies. Americans, even Republicans, aren’t in favor of these abortion bans, but Trump goes out on the circuit being like “you know, I got those judges in there” and that’s a win for him. More benign, but Ted Cruz can have Trump call his wife ugly or whatever and just hop right back on that dick without even enough time to grab some mouthwash and wipe down with a towel.

              Meanwhile, the someone anywhere sneezes, Biden doesn’t say “bless you” fast enough and that’s the fucking news cycle.

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        Which one are you voting for?

        I’d like to find a viable 3rd party candidate that can win the presidential election and disrupt the 2 party system we currently have.