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    Anyone who is mad about Biden should consider that Trump’s people are ready and willing to nuke the entire Middle East on the chance that it will start the Rapture.

    Half a loaf is better than getting shot.

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      Like, it’s not even a close call. And I’m still not seeing how biden’s actual record isn’t a factor. He’s done a pretty solid job with the resources he’s got. A good chunk of Congress is a terror cell at this point, the supreme Court is stacked with zealots appointed for life, and he’s still managed to get a lot of good stuff done.

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        He’s managed to get a lot of okay stuff done, which was better than expected.

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          People keep saying this as though presidents in the past get SHIT LOADS done, when in reality most of them don’t do shit and the Republican ones start wars, give money to the rich and crash the economy.

          So you can’t even compare him to previous presidents becuase previous Republican presidents have been DISASTERS.

          So we can only really compare him to previous Democrat presidents and I’d say he’s gotten more done than most of them.

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        At this point, lauding Biden is a waste of time, because the GOPs will go straight to ‘whaddabouts’ and sidetrack the discussion with lies.

        I don’t talk about voting for Biden, it’s all about stopping Donnie.

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          I mean, that’s kind of been the strategy this whole time and it’s not doing very well. Conservatives are a lost cause, we should be soley focused on driving turnout of Democrat voters and people who don’t vote. Those groups are all saying they want something/someone to vote FOR, not just someone to vote against. Donald Trump is clearly an existential threat to our entire democracy, but these people aren’t worried about that. They’re worried about paying their bills. They want someone to make their day to day lives better and Biden has done a lot of things that help every day Americans, theyve just never heard about it.

          The pitch needs to be “here’s what we’ve gotten done even with Republicans fighting against all of it along the way. Send me a solid Democratic majority in Congress and we’ll get X, Y, Z done.” Get Jeffries and Schumer to have legislation prepared and ready to go that the caucus will pass without a single GOP vote if necessary. Then, most importantly, follow through and pass that shit.

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      Moving the baseline to “nukes” doesn’t invalidate legitimate concerns around Biden’s handling of events.

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        Of course. The comment was probably directed to the bots telling us we are genocidal if we don’t vote third party (thereby allowing Trump to take over and oh by the way nuke Gaza or whatever)

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          Disagreeing with Biden <> vote third party.

          Lemmy needs to stop confusing those two ideas. The strong reactionary misunderstandings that ensue are unhelpful and honestly… Kind of intellectually bankrupt.

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    Is he not aware he’s gonna be gassed with the other browns?

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        There’s a pretty morbidly interesting interaction between Hindu nationalists and Nazis in that the modern Hindu nationalists seem to think Hitler thought they were “Aryan peoples” and thus he’s not talking about them when he goes on about untermensches.

        Which is on the face understandable, given actual history, but is ignorant of so many, many things about the Nazis, primarily that they lived a “race science” fantasy that had absolutely no historical basis.

        Not that I know anything about Ramaswamy, but if he is babbling about Great Replacement like he thinks they don’t think he’s the replacer that is probably a big reason why.

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            It’s because nationalists are dumb, ignorant weirdos that don’t live in reality, but they do have that in common with each other, so, ultimately, kinda?

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            can’t wait til asking for “source” on general world knowledge stops being a thing and starts being shameful, cuz its fucking awful

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              can’t wait til asking for “source” on general world knowledge stops being a thing and starts being shameful, cuz its fucking awful

              You can’t wait until people trying to educate themselves on a topic they haven’t heard before becomes shameful?

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                Asking questions on an internet site full of random people isn’t education. And the thought that it is is why your Aunt Susan gets her vaccination information from fucking Facebook instead of a doctor. Not that getting it from the website with the best SEO is any better.

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    As soon as the debate ended, CNN began post-game coverage

    This is the problem with US politics. Turn your elections into a sports match and people are gonna tribe up. Total circus.

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        While the news has always been a for-profit industry, Citizens United turned election years into billion dollar windfalls for news outfits.

        I’m pretty sure that’s why USA Today owns almost all the local papers in my state. They can float the payrolls between election years, or cut a bunch of local reporters and send their own around following primaries in the state with the most campaign money each week.

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          I don’t believe the news was always for-profit. Early television news actually cost the station money and was provided as a service for the public good. Things took a turn for the worse sometime in the sixties, accelerating through the eighties and devolving into the shitshow we have today.

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            I don’t believe the news was always for-profit.

            No it wasn’t, and it would referred to as the Fourth Estate.

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              Look at the history of newspapers. They started a war at one point to sell more papers. Which is how the term yellow journalism was coined.

              It’s true that the fairness doctrine made broadcast news better for the period when they were losing money, right up to about when Kennedy was assassinated, but that’s been long gone for decades, and only really helped radio and OTA TV.

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                It’s true that the fairness doctrine made broadcast news better

                My comment that you replied to was related just to broadcast news, and not newspapers. The Big Three.

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    “CNNs Dana Bash puts microphone in front known liar and is surprised when he lies”

    Fucking media. Stop giving attention to these clowns.

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    One thing I have learned from GOP in last 3 years is that If you repeat a lie non-stop over and over again it eventually becomes the truth.

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        Unfortunately, it may very well prove to be “truth” to enough people to get Trump re-elected. Remember, we’re now in an era where “Truth isn’t Truth” (Rudy Guiliani) and people are “entitled to their own ‘alternative facts’” (Kellyanne Conway). An era where personal grievances are valued over objective facts, and people will vote against their own best interests just for the possibility of hurting “them”. We are now living in an idiocracy.

        Here’s the problem. Donald Trump could say that Biden has monkeys flying out of his ass terrorizing Washington DC in search of bananas. Now, you and I both know that’s ridiculous and, in any sane world, should be ignored for the stupidity it is. But here’s the problem. You can say how stupid the idea is all you want, but if 51% of people you need to vote for you have serious concerns about monkey’s flying out of Biden’s ass, then he needs to either come up a plan to handle flying monkeys, or sit by the wayside as Trump gets re-elected because voters were too concerned over monkeys flying out of his ass.

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          Trump just throws shit at the wall to see what sticks. If something he says doesn’t resonate, he just starts staying something else. If pushed back on something he said, it was just a joke and you’re being sensitive.

          It doesn’t matter how absurd the shit he says, he’ll suddenly tack on “everyone’s saying” or “you know it, I know it, everyone knows it” except the people you don’t like. They’re stopping you from it.

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            Trump just throws shit at the wall to see what sticks. If something he says doesn’t resonate, he just starts staying something else. If pushed back on something he said, it was just a joke and you’re being sensitive.

            The problem is the amount of shit that ends up sticking to the wall.

            It doesn’t matter how absurd the shit he says, he’ll suddenly tack on “everyone’s saying” or “you know it, I know it, everyone knows it” except the people you don’t like. They’re stopping you from it.

            It’s one of his many tells. When he uses phrases like that, that’s how you know he’s not only full of shit, but knows he’s full of shit. I’ve always wanted to play poker with the man; he’s so god damned stupid I could beat him holding the 2 of diamonds and a basic Forest from Magic: the Gathering.

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        None of them are running for the veep position, because after Pence betrayed Trump by doing the right thing, you can bet Trump is not going to choose a veep that might do the same thing again. My guess is that he’ll make his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, his veep choice. He knows that Jared isn’t pestered with those pesky feelings of morality.

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    “Incited”? Why didn’t they just comply? If they had just complied nothing would have happened to them! /s

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    So this is there plan around releasing the footage. Expect most people to not watch it and gaslight about it?

    Strategies used here:

    • Gaslighting
    • Firehose of Falsehoods
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    What a massive massive bullshitter. He’ll have a great career as a politician.

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    Vivek doesn’t have a chance. He’s so lazy, he’s repeating these ancient conspiracy theories that have long since run their course. Just more evidence that he’s in it for the notoriety, since he can’t be bothered to come up with anything novel.