As always, the paying user has the worst experience. “Purchase” a show, can only watch on a certain console of a certain brand, no transfers, no backups, then it suddenly disappears from the library and nothing can be done.
If media companies insist on draconian DRM, then they should pay for full refunds to their loyal customers when one day they decide to delist that specific show.
Cool tattoo idea!
“As always, the paying user has the worst experience.”
So true.
Alright, what this looks like is Sony’s deal with Discovery to sell and host their TV shows has been removed. From my quick glance there are no games being removed.
Still is BS, and beyond ridiculous. But it was inevitably going to happen at some point.
I am more pissed that I got informed that they are doing this from here instead of being told that I am losing my Myth Busters.
But it was inevitably going to happen at some point.
If you believed this, wtf would you ever give them your money to begin with???
Because it was 2009, I was I kid, and I saw Mythbusters and I said yes. I learnt my lesson when they remove PlayStation Video years ago from PS3, and the PSP. I didn’t even know I could re-download it until I stumbled upon it in a menu years later.
I am just hoping and praying that this will not extend to their games. Sony’s been pretty good about game ownership to this point, look at those who bought the PT Demo and can still play it.
Ok fair enough.
Now THAT is stealing.
And this is why I never “buy” media online. If I can’t own the media and enjoy the content whenever and wherever I want, it’s rented. I may be ok with that, but I never let them claim that it was a sale.
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That’s one reason I’ve ordered a few titles from PlayAsia recently. For example, the NTSC switch edition of the Metal Gear Solid collection requires downloading the titles. With the PlayAsia edition, lo and behold- everything is on the card, and multiple languages to boot.
Never heard of that before today, that’s fucked, why even is that a thing?
Some places have crappy internet, so they need it
You and I can download a 1300MB game, it’s not necessarily so in Brunei
Hence “and enjoy it whenever and wherever I want.” If they maintain control, it’s not sold. It is, at best, rented.
Fortunately, there are often tools to enforce the first sale doctrine.
Buy it for the convenience and for the good Devs, pirate it after if they try taking it away. You already paid for it
Exactly.
It’s much the same as creators in Second Life who don’t want to sell in the Opensim metaverse. I get where they’re coming from in terms of protecting a recurring revenue stream, but if the customer has already paid for the product once, under first sale doctrine, they have the right to continue using it.
Slap one pirating at the front if it’s a game with no demo.
“But you only ever owned a usage-license, which we now suspended” strawman argument incoming.
Well duh, then i don’t have “buyed” but rented it. Usage of those terms by platforms should be sued as misleading.
I look forward to the class action suit, and the $14 check I’ll get in the mail.
Modern consoles are a scam.
Yeah, I stopped buying’em when they started charging for 2nd internet.
Fucking rubes ruin everything I swear lol.
I still like having a console strictly for games, but not for media stuff. Plus since it’s an Xbox, you can subscribe to Game Pass and treat every game as a rental.
That doesn’t do anything to help game preservation though, which sucks. But between the sheer volume of games and the “every game is a rental” attitude, I treat new games as a one-time experience that I probably won’t care about returning to.
Fortunately though, the games I care most about having access to forever are easily backed up and can be played with an emulator if necessary.
Like… They’re straight up taking it back? No refunding? That is so asinine.
“We sincerely thank you for your continued support.”
Not only are they not refunding, They seem to think you might purchase something else from them in the future.
Even Google was giving people full refunds for all games that were bought on Stadia when they gave up on that. I can’t imagine that the total refunds would even be that bad for Sony given the increases they made for PSN prices. Would at least come across as at least pretending to “do right” to keep some level of trust from the people that have been buying non-game media from them. It would all be just a PR thing with some loss of current money for future money. Maybe even just offer a free amount of credit for getting some shows/movies from the Sony owned studios.
But since Sony is currently the number one, they will keep on their fuck shit until Microsoft or Nintendo are able to pull some big push. Playstation really only does kind of cool shit for customers when they aren’t in the lead.
Just FYI: there’s been about 45 million PS5’s sold to date. There’s been over 130 million Switch’s sold. PS4 sold 117 million during its total run.
They’re in the lead against Xbox. They don’t really cross paths with Nintendo. Different demographic, sort of.
And idiots will do it, too.
Because most people will still continue to buy things.
You can bet Australian users will be entitled to a refund, should they be affected.
Similar to how “no refunds” didn’t fly with steam in cases where people are entitled to a refund under Australian Consumer Law.
That’s one reason why Piracy will always exist, am I right?
It’s why it must exist.
Fucking assholes. This is why piracy is justifiable, and in some cases, even necessary.
If I’m to believe I own the crap I buy that’s digital delivery, then if they want to take it back, they need to buy it from me at my price.
This won’t change until someone sells a yacht to a Senator with fine print that it’s only a perpetual license. Then comes back 3 years later and takes the yacht citing the fine print in the contract.
God, I hope these bastards get sued 'cause little doubt they won’t be refunding the poor schmos who’ve just been robbed of their property.
I’m sure they covered this in the terms of service that they know no one ever reads.
In many countries that wont work. The Terms of service need to only include reasonable and expectable clauses, as they are not negotionable.
And “purchase doesnt mean ownership, we take it from you anytime we want” is neither reasonable nor expectable.
Also this should run under criminal fraud imo. The customers were deliberately deceived by the term “purchase” into believing they would be granted ownership.
That argument might fly in the EU, but in the current US political climate? Not so sure. Hopefully they’ll keep making laws with actual teeth to drag these multinational corporations to change things that may lower their bottom line
To be fair, Sony might go for that. This is incredibly embarrassing for them as well, and it does erode the trust in their service which is really important for a marketplace like this. Sony will be handing out coupons probably, but this is still damage to their brand.
If I purchased it, do I get store credit for losing what I bought?
That’s funny. You should do stand-up
Yes, but since it’s “used”, you get .1 percent what you paid for it.
It loses 70% of it’s value as soon as you
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Discovery Entitlements Affected Titles
As of 31 December 2023, due to our content licensing arrangements with content providers, you will no longer be able to watch any of your previously purchased Discovery content and the content will be removed from your video library.
We sincerely thank you for your continued support.
Thank you,
PlayStation Store
Turns out you people didn’t actually purchase it.
I wonder if anywhere in the “purchase” terms they included “while Sony holds the license to distribute.”
I hate that “purchases” people make are restricted per platform. If I “purchase” a specific title it should be available on any and all platforms that serve that content. No one should be asked to purchase it on Sony. Apple, Netflix, Amazon, or whatever other shitty streaming service comes out.
As much as I think nfts are fucking retarded, this could be one of the few cases where that stupid digital receipt might make sense.
My understanding was this was the actual intended use case for NFTs. To allow you to properly own a digital item. The fact that it got applied to a stupid fad right out the gate doesn’t change the fact that it should actually be used to allow us to own things again.
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