By now it would also mean adopting the Euro.
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Only if the UK wanted to fully rejoin the EU. Countries can join the European Economic Area without joining the EU, like Norway and Iceland did for example - the downside being they are bound by rules they don’t have a right to vote on, even if in practice the EU always consults them.
They EFTA countries already stated they don’t want the UK in there because it is too large and would basically ruin any influence the smaller nations have.
Wasn’t that how the Brits felt about the situation from the start? That they had no say in their own laws. Seems perfect for them.
That’s what the papers peddled, yeah
Yeah I didn’t mean what people actually felt.
I’d go for that and Schengen just to make future fuckery even more difficult.
Honestly, I wished we were part of Schengen before we left. it’s great!
The UK is a joke you can live in.
Then what’s the US?
Oh my god, can’t you let another country suck for a minute without making it about the US?
Blame the US for that. They want to be the center of the universe. Now they’re the most easy and recognisable country to use as example on how NOT to do things.
A nightmare
A lot better than the UK
Good luck on that.
The EU would make demands so steep, crawling on broken glass would be mild.
Brexit was a catastrophic diplomatic event, bridled with ridiculous underhanded manouvers from the UK to try and sneak away from demands.
I am not against the UK rejoining the EU but as a common member, with all the demands required to join like any other country.
I think it’s misleading to say that EU would make steep demands, because it gives the impression that EU would deliberately try to make UK joining difficult. UK shouldn’t get any special treatment (good or bad) and they should get the exact same standard joining procedure all other countries would get. The standard procedure is already going to have their panties twisted, no need to give them a legitimation reason to complain.
Let’s keep in mind the UK dove into directions so divergent from the EU, on such trivial matters, just to face those demands - so trivial it will feel as petty - will make the UK negotiators twist their hands in anger.
And to crown it all, just the demand to drop the pound would be nurderous to the british pride.
Absolutely. I think we’re on the same page that the process of joining is going to have the UK complain and whine at every step. My point was rather that saying EU would make demands so steep could be taken as EU wanting make an example out of UK. That’s not really what we should want because we know the UK is going to complain and treating them harsher than any other applicant would somewhat legitimize their grievances. I think a better wording for “EU would make demands so steep, crawling on…” would be “UK will think the demands are so steep, crawling on glass…” because then instead of seeming like EU is being unfair it’s going to seem like UK simply doesn’t want to play ball (which is how we have ended up in this situation in the first place).
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N-N-N-N-NERD RAGE!
Don’t care. It stays as a lasting testament of my sausage fingers.
It would not be that bad. The EU wants the UK back not only because both sides would greatly economically benefit from this but because one of the main reasons for EU’s existence is the continuation of peace in Europe. So the UK must be part of the EU.
I am not again the UK rejoining the EU.
My country has had the country as an ally for centuries and we went to great lenghts to facilitate the movements of brits to and from but the UK needs to recognize it is not more than any other member of the EU.
That stupid and hollow pride needs to come down and mistakes have to be recognized.
I doubt they would, at all.
It is in their best interest to give the UK the same standing it once had, because it will make any country think twice about leaving. The UK has suffered outside of the EU, and should it return and see growth, it’ll be the closest ally to the group that you could possibly have.
So, if I’m following correctly your reasoning, you’re in favor of allowing the “person” that abandoned the team to return, in their own term, and with special previliges? Unfair to all other parties.
It wouldn’t be the exact same deal, because the world isn’t exactly the same as it was, but yes, I’d fully expect the UK to retain certain voting rights, to keep the pound, etc.
Treating the UK poorly would send a message to Eurosceptics that leaving is the point of no return. It would also mean there is one fewer nation to calm any sceptical nations to the power of a combined bloc.
“The UK had special entering rights; we want them as well.”
Probably all other nations wanting to join.
And a huge drawback of relations of trust between already in place members.
No. The EU bent the knee to Tatcher in order to grow in relevance and stability internationally. A rejoining UK needs to recognize it is joining an established and relevant bloc, not an upstart project.
Then it doesn’t rejoin. It’s pretty simple, really.
It also means that the UK stays as an anti-bloc voice, and it’s successes and failures define the EU.
It’s a really simple concept, and one that is widely shared by the likes of Ian Hislop and Oli Dugmore. If the EU are inflexible, it doesn’t particularly help with euroscepticism in the UK and the EU.
I’ll reserve my right to scepticism.
Maybe the UK, after dredging the bottom of the barrel, perhaps in another 25 or 30 years, realizes the gravity of its mistakes and realizes the exit from the EU was a mistake for itself, by itself, and approaches the EU to rejoin, like any other member state.
They’re still a member of the five eyes… Traitors…
What?
The absolute lack of sympathy in here for those of us that voted remain is disgusting.
The way a referendum works is that the side with more votes gets to do the thing, in this case brexit. How you voted does not matter as the majority of your countries population (who voted) voted to leave. You don’t get to “I voted for Kodos” this 7 years later.
That referendum was 7 years ago and it passed with a 2% majority, under conditions where the Leave campaign was caught lying out of their teeth.
A lot of people who voted on it have died since then and a whole cohort of people aged 18-25 didn’t get a chance to vote.
Democracy required them to go through with it, but democracy also means they are allowed to change their mind and apply for EU, EER or EFTA membership.
I, for one, will welcome them back at the soonest opportunity.
More referendums is the way to go.
How is that fair? If the vote had been to oppress an minority group you wouldn’t then go oh well it’s that population groups fault for being oppressed would you?
I’m not sure that the level of vitriol here is entirely justified. Wouldn’t the European Union be more economically sound if the UK rejoined. Wouldn’t a unified trade block be the best thing possible you should want the UK back in if the UK wants back in. I do not get this attitude of oh screw all the British people because well the vast majority of Scottish didn’t want it, most of the population of London didn’t want it. It was basically just a bunch of idiot yokels and old people who are now dead who wanted to leave the EU because they thought the EU was in some way this evil entity.
Not sure where you get vitriol and the idea anything is fair. I am also not extra happy Scotland did not leave the UK but as there was a vote (just 2 years too soon) and last time I checked things still work that way so I like most people have to live with it.
Hold a referendum on the issue then again (I am sure it will also be a mess). Its insane that people now think you can somehow ignore a majority vote because you don’t like the result. Was this a bad idea? yes. Is the UK filled with “a bunch of idiot yokels and old people”? also yes.
Its insane that people now think you can somehow ignore a majority vote because you don’t like the result.
Making a bad decision doesn’t mean you can never, ever rethink that decision and have to stick with it no matter what.
If the majority doesn’t like the result, then what’s the point of not reconsidering things?
Never said otherwise. But retroactively arguing the issue without a new referendum is an issue.
It was barely a majority vote and anyway it wasn’t legally binding so the government could have totally ignored it at the time and been fine the vote was utterly pointless.
The problem is the morons held the vote then decided to uphold the decision of the vote even though It was essentially only getting soundings.
It was a trade relationship why was it a matter of public consultation?
The people of the UK have been extremely hurt by this and it’s just irritating to see that apparently there would be resistance in the EU to fixing a mistake. Why is there resistance I don’t get it?
Why is there resistance I don’t get it?
The history of British whining and cherrypicking. They never behaved like regular members, but more like “special snowflakes”. I understand the fear that they might start this nonsense again, once back in the the union.
It was barely a majority vote and anyway it wasn’t legally binding so the government could have totally ignored it
The problem is the morons held the vote then decided to uphold the decision of the vote
Do you see the problem with this approach?
Ok I’m British, I live in a country that gave me permanent residency before this shit show. The remainers mismanaged the campaign by resorting to the arguments of “lol you’re so stupid” and “omg so racist”. They also completely and overwhelmingly underestimated the power of propaganda to influence public opinion. And didn’t realise that a generation of blaming the EU for Westminster’s shitty decision making might have consequences. The remainers are just as culpable as the people who voted to leave.
Yeah, I remember the people being interviewed on the street saying they where remainers and also they where not planing to vote. It was a silly time.
You don’t understand, we are sympathetic but the lead up to brexit did have a part in tanking the economy… Aside from inflation, Covid, etc… You guys need to get your shit together before we can move on. It will take time and make no mistake, You will never again regain the priviliged position you had before. It absolutely sucks for the remainers but thats how it is.
There is a lot of sympathy for those unlucky brits that voted remain. As a person who strongly identifies as european, I can barely imagine how it must have felt to leave our union. Made me heartbroken back then.
We just cannot give you a better treatment than those brits who voted to leave when it comes to rejoining. Unless you all move to Scotland and then leave the UK.
I’m sure the EU would (re)welcome the UK as a member, but it will almost certainly not be on the same terms they had before Brexit. I do hope it happens, but I’m also a pessimist.
As an EU Citizen - they are welcome back, but without the cherry picking.
Ah so Brenter has begun
Brease-can-we-come-back?
Brease forgive me
- Britain Adams
But majority of EU citizens do not.
Snip, snap! Snip, snap! Snip, snap!
Do you have any idea the toll three vasectomies has on a person?
No shit! As a Brit living in another country I would like Britain to never have left. BUT, now that Britain has left, I’d like to punish those who allowed Brexit to happen by preventing them from rejoining. You’ve made your nasty scat bed, now fucking lie in it.
As EU citizen watching from the sidelines, I’m disappointed nobody is rallying for political reforms. The UK government has proven multiple times now it is incapable of governing and policing to adapt for changing realities. I don’t think the UK is ready for any future until painful structural reforms of their parliamentary system and executive. This mess was and is caused by UK politics and they deserve all the anger as fuel to fix their workplace. Until then, an effort to rejoin would occupy the executive for years and make UK life only worse because necessary local policy-making would’nd get the attention it deserves.
Ever since the French revolution, the establishment in Britain has been bending over backwards to ensure the status quo (as far as they’re concerned) remains. The British parliamentary system is doing exactly what it was designed to do. The sheep who live there are kept busy with xenophobia and infighting with the sole purpose of keeping them isolated from dangerous ideas.
While I would love to have the UK rejoin it won’t happen in at least the next 5-8 years, probably not even 20 years. The problem isn’t just whether the EU would accept the UK it’s that the Brexit period was so politically toxic the two main parties won’t touch it.
The people can say they want it all they like but unless a governing party is willing to risk tearing itself apart over it then it won’t go anywhere.
It’s a shame that Starmer won’t budge on it, although a part of me wonders if it is a ploy to get votes in, so that he can switch his stance once in power and do pretty much what he wants.
Like it or not, the gammon vote is quite powerful, but once his five year term is in, he could get back into the EU within 1-2 years, and take the next 3-4 benefitting from a stronger economy.
I hate to break it to you but you’re dilusional, you have no idea how much most of the EU despises the UK and your arrogance is only adding fuel to the fire.
I mean, I’ve watched Eurovision before.
Besides, my point is almost entirely around the UK’s viewpoint of the EU. The terms of rejoining are irrelevant unless the UK public would back it without kicking off.
Britain must rejoin! It is time to stop this undignified squabbling! It is time to quit fighting over petty whims! It is time to stand together, to unite and to face the great terrible evil in the very heart of europe: Belgium!
No, please no, stop UK from joining europe.
The UK is already a member of Europe you idiot it’s the EU the UK left
Oops a typo and i’m an idiot… Uk is a part of europe geographically. Culturaly speaking… Less and less.
That’s an incredibly isolationist attitude the UK isn’t part of a trade union that’s got nothing to do with culture
Who’s speaking who’s langauge here?
Whose
TwT
We’re speaking Murican here🦅🇱🇷FUCK YEAH
The UK is as much of a member of Europe as Greenland is a member of America… you could count it, but you could also just not. When people are talking about North America they’re usually not thinking about Greenland. In the same way, the UK is often not considered when talking about Europe (although it is more tied to mainland history). When people say Europe they often mean to exclude some countries like the UK or maybe Turkey (but not always).
Insert J.J. Jameson laugh
Majority of Britons support rejoining the EU
single market - pollFin.
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If the question was asked I’m sure the EU would have a rational response rather than that response because that’s unhelpful and doesn’t move the situation forward.
Also no one likes the Tories they don’t even like each other and fight like a sack full of cats, it’s fine they’re going to lose the election.
I could genuinely see the ceasing to exist as a political party in the next decade
