The World Health Organization, together with the United Nations, has issued an “International technical guidance on sexuality education” aimed at “equipping children” for se…
Yeah, better off just letting those kids never learn anything about safe and healthy sex and just let then literally fuck around and find out…
No one says you should tell kids to go watch porn but the reality is that kids at age 12 and even 6! Are already exposed to it and not educating them just leaves them to make bad decisions on their own.
BTW kids masturbate at a super young age, way before they reach puberty, they don’t do it sexually but they understand that they like it so they do it, and when you don’t educate them you will just end up having confused kids that do inappropriate things without understanding it.
And let’s not even talk about the fact that sexualy uneducated kids are less likely to understand and report if they are molested.
So acting like all things sex are 18+ is the most harmful thing we can do to children and our future.
Just to clearify since I’m sure I will be accused of it. I do not support child sex, not between children and not when they are raped by adults, sexual education!=practicing sex
If you were exposed at sex at age 6 you might need a therapist.
However, doing a class explaining basic stuff could be done with voluntary assistance (nobody wants screaming Karens coming at the school’s office) when they’re 12
Sex maybe not but porn is everywhere and kids are exposed to it sometimes at a very early age.
To a 6 year-old sex ed is not going to be super detailed, but it should explain what sex is, what is okay and what is not, why porn is bad and not fitting for a child, etc.
And if you have a 6 year-old and you find out they watch a porn video sent from another child in class? Or a 6 year-old that like to play with themself? These are real situations and without (age appropriate) sex ed how would you teach them the healthy way to handle these situations?
If you started masturbating at 6 there’s no doubt you’re mentally deranged now. And if I found out another kid sent a video to mine I’d just tell the kid’s parents
6 year olds definetly don’t watch porn or masturbate, if this is something that was done to you, you should definetly have therapy. If you’re witnessing this happening to some kid, call the cops.
No one says you should tell kids to go watch porn but the reality is that kids at age 12 and even 6! Are already exposed to it and not educating them just leaves them to make bad decisions on their own.
Or perhaps parents should teach their children what porn is, why it is bad, and do everything in their power to protect children from it? Your solution is to give up and even encourage porn consumption, since that is what the bourgeois education system does in the name of “exploring one’s body”.
BTW kids masturbate at a super young age, way before they reach puberty, they don’t do it sexually but they understand that they like it so they do it
Calling this behaviour masturbation is a pedo talking point designed to sexualize children, one can teach what is and isn’t inappropriate for children without sexualising them. Or do you call playing doctor between children sexual activities instead of natural curiousity of children?
So acting like all things sex are 18+ is the most harmful thing we can do to children and our future.
Literal pedo rhetoric. Parents should teach children what sex is and what it exists for, and that it should only be had with people you’re ready to have a child with.
Or perhaps parents should teach their children what porn is, why it is bad, and do everything in their power to protect children from it?
Yes, and schools, “it takes a village” plus parents are not as qualified as teachers sometimes, so it should also be taught at schools.
Your solution is to give up and even encourage porn consumption
No, porn is bad, even for adults (for the most part) we should teach about why it is bad but just pretending it does not exist until you are 18 is counter-productive.
Calling this behaviour masturbation is a pedo talking point designed to sexualize children, one can teach what is and isn’t inappropriate for children without sexualising them.
What? How should i call it if a child is literaly plaing with thier sex organ for pleasure? No, we shouldn’t sexualize it, yes it is natural, and yes, we should educate the kid on why what they are doing could be a problem in our socity and specifically in public.
Parents should teach children what sex is and what it exists for, and that it should only be had with people you’re ready to have a child with.
Sure tell that to all of the pregnant teens from religous homes and children raped by their parents, I’m sure they will agree with you that this is the solution.
Yes, and schools, “it takes a village” plus parents are not as qualified as teachers sometimes, so it should also be taught at schools.
I wouldn’t trust the bourgeois education system in this.
No, porn is bad, even for adults (for the most part) we should teach about why it is bad but just pretending it does not exist until you are 18 is counter-productive.
Never did i advocate for pretending like it doesn’t exist. If one is to educate the harmfull, degenerate nature of porn, they obviously will have to explain that it exists in the first place. The current bourgeois education system (criticised in the article) on the other hand seeks to normalise porn and exposure of children to it.
What? How should i call it if a child is literaly plaing with thier sex organ for pleasure?
Tell me, where does the notion that children play with their genitals for the purpose of pleasure come from?
Sure tell that to all of the pregnant teens from religous homes and children raped by their parents, I’m sure they will agree with you that this is the solution.
I dont see how this is relevant in any way. This is the product of failed parents.
Tell me, where does the notion that children play with their genitals for the purpose of pleasure come from?
From being around plenty of childeren. Some of them can start doing it at a very young age just because it feels nice, not from seeing it or understanding it, just from being human and having genitals. The right thing to do is to talk to them about their body, what it is that they are doing and why it is wrong to do in public.
I dont see how this is relevant in any way. This is the product of failed parents.
But wouldn’t it be nice if the fate of a child would have more then one support system? Like if the parents are bad maybe the school system can help the child…
And yeah I agree, parents that don’t educate their children about sex as they grow up (at a fitting level for each age) are failing their child and are partially (if not fully) to blame for bad outcomes of uneducated sex.
And I don’t need to explain why parents that rape their child are a failure to humanity.
From being around plenty of childeren. Some of them can start doing it at a very young age just because it feels nice, not from seeing it or understanding it, just from being human and having genitals.
This is an anecdote, i might as well reply with my own anecdote of not seeing such behaviour, both carry as much weight. If one is to base education of children on this notion, there needs to be a study to prove it.
But wouldn’t it be nice if the fate of a child would have more then one support system? Like if the parents are bad maybe the school system can help the child…
Yes and thats the whole point of this post, to criticise the bourgeois education system. Seems to me that you’ve interpreted my critique of the bourgeois education system as demanding there to be no sex education to begin with. Of course there needs to be sex education, but based on materialism and collectivism, ie. marxism. Just look at socialist states for inspiration, like the DPRK. “Sex education” in the imperialist West is based on an individualist ideal of sex only existing for pleasure, with procreation merely as an option, when a marxist recognizes the primary function of sex as procreation, with pleasure merely existing to encourage this. There are then other conclusions that are drawn from whichever view one has, mainly having to do with relationships.
Yeah, better off just letting those kids never learn anything about safe and healthy sex and just let then literally fuck around and find out… No one says you should tell kids to go watch porn but the reality is that kids at age 12 and even 6! Are already exposed to it and not educating them just leaves them to make bad decisions on their own.
BTW kids masturbate at a super young age, way before they reach puberty, they don’t do it sexually but they understand that they like it so they do it, and when you don’t educate them you will just end up having confused kids that do inappropriate things without understanding it.
And let’s not even talk about the fact that sexualy uneducated kids are less likely to understand and report if they are molested.
So acting like all things sex are 18+ is the most harmful thing we can do to children and our future.
Just to clearify since I’m sure I will be accused of it. I do not support child sex, not between children and not when they are raped by adults, sexual education!=practicing sex
If you were exposed at sex at age 6 you might need a therapist.
However, doing a class explaining basic stuff could be done with voluntary assistance (nobody wants screaming Karens coming at the school’s office) when they’re 12
Sex maybe not but porn is everywhere and kids are exposed to it sometimes at a very early age. To a 6 year-old sex ed is not going to be super detailed, but it should explain what sex is, what is okay and what is not, why porn is bad and not fitting for a child, etc.
No, a six year old should just be told to be careful around certain people that might do them things, not give them sex ed
And if you have a 6 year-old and you find out they watch a porn video sent from another child in class? Or a 6 year-old that like to play with themself? These are real situations and without (age appropriate) sex ed how would you teach them the healthy way to handle these situations?
If you started masturbating at 6 there’s no doubt you’re mentally deranged now. And if I found out another kid sent a video to mine I’d just tell the kid’s parents
I’m done, been a while and I forgot how pointless it is to argue on the internet. Thanks for the reminder Lemmy 🙃
6 year olds definetly don’t watch porn or masturbate, if this is something that was done to you, you should definetly have therapy. If you’re witnessing this happening to some kid, call the cops.
Or perhaps parents should teach their children what porn is, why it is bad, and do everything in their power to protect children from it? Your solution is to give up and even encourage porn consumption, since that is what the bourgeois education system does in the name of “exploring one’s body”.
Calling this behaviour masturbation is a pedo talking point designed to sexualize children, one can teach what is and isn’t inappropriate for children without sexualising them. Or do you call playing doctor between children sexual activities instead of natural curiousity of children?
Literal pedo rhetoric. Parents should teach children what sex is and what it exists for, and that it should only be had with people you’re ready to have a child with.
Yes, and schools, “it takes a village” plus parents are not as qualified as teachers sometimes, so it should also be taught at schools.
No, porn is bad, even for adults (for the most part) we should teach about why it is bad but just pretending it does not exist until you are 18 is counter-productive.
What? How should i call it if a child is literaly plaing with thier sex organ for pleasure? No, we shouldn’t sexualize it, yes it is natural, and yes, we should educate the kid on why what they are doing could be a problem in our socity and specifically in public.
Sure tell that to all of the pregnant teens from religous homes and children raped by their parents, I’m sure they will agree with you that this is the solution.
I wouldn’t trust the bourgeois education system in this.
Never did i advocate for pretending like it doesn’t exist. If one is to educate the harmfull, degenerate nature of porn, they obviously will have to explain that it exists in the first place. The current bourgeois education system (criticised in the article) on the other hand seeks to normalise porn and exposure of children to it.
Tell me, where does the notion that children play with their genitals for the purpose of pleasure come from?
I dont see how this is relevant in any way. This is the product of failed parents.
From being around plenty of childeren. Some of them can start doing it at a very young age just because it feels nice, not from seeing it or understanding it, just from being human and having genitals. The right thing to do is to talk to them about their body, what it is that they are doing and why it is wrong to do in public.
But wouldn’t it be nice if the fate of a child would have more then one support system? Like if the parents are bad maybe the school system can help the child… And yeah I agree, parents that don’t educate their children about sex as they grow up (at a fitting level for each age) are failing their child and are partially (if not fully) to blame for bad outcomes of uneducated sex. And I don’t need to explain why parents that rape their child are a failure to humanity.
This is an anecdote, i might as well reply with my own anecdote of not seeing such behaviour, both carry as much weight. If one is to base education of children on this notion, there needs to be a study to prove it.
Yes and thats the whole point of this post, to criticise the bourgeois education system. Seems to me that you’ve interpreted my critique of the bourgeois education system as demanding there to be no sex education to begin with. Of course there needs to be sex education, but based on materialism and collectivism, ie. marxism. Just look at socialist states for inspiration, like the DPRK. “Sex education” in the imperialist West is based on an individualist ideal of sex only existing for pleasure, with procreation merely as an option, when a marxist recognizes the primary function of sex as procreation, with pleasure merely existing to encourage this. There are then other conclusions that are drawn from whichever view one has, mainly having to do with relationships.
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/124/3/992/71844/Clinical-Report-The-Evaluation-of-Sexual-Behaviors
And there are more, just do some research.
Tell me, do you take bourgeois economists who’ve “disproven marxism” seriously?